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    yes, you can go on the bleach cal, click on more calcs and it will show you how much you need to bring it down in increments of .2
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    Just got back from an out of town business trip and my pool must have been angry that I left it alone.

    After numerous Rain days with no attention my pool has decided to go cloudy.

    I checked my stats and it looks like my PH is about 7.2-7.4, FC - (not on the charts) TA-80 and CYA-Under 30 but over 0.

    I've Triaged and have decided to take the following course of action:

    1. I've added a good dose (about 1 cup of Pool Magnet)
    2. I'm raising my FC - to 10 (Very slowly, over a few hours) (Raising it with incremental small amounts of pool shock
    3. I'm going to let the Chlorine stay at 10 for at least 1-2 hours.
    4. I'm going to add Ascorbic Acid - to bring down the Chlorine and hopefully eliminate any chance of Metal(s) impact.
    5. I'm going to Vaccuum (hopefully anything dead will get sucked up)
    6. I'm going to bring my chlorine up slowly again to 1-2.
    7. The constant Fountain during filtering should adjust my PH and Alkalinity'
    8. The my chlorine tabs are stabilized so I'm hoping it will adjust my CYA
    9. My pool should(will) be Crystal Clear.

    I'd welcome any Doctor's opinions and suggestions. This is my first time trying to triage my own pool based on the information I've learned by this site and thread.

    What do you think?

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    I don't know if I'd add Ascorbic Acid if you aren't having a problem with staining. It could possibly keep your water cloudy. If it were me (and I am an admitted newbie but I've read a lot) I would skip the AA unless you have a staining problem and just let your chlorine come back down after the shock and the water should be clear.

    Do you have combined chlorine in the pool? I agree that you are right about adding the pool magnet. I always just try to add the least amount of "extras" that I need to be effective, that's why I say to skip the AA, it will bring your Ph down as well if you add it.

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    Gerri -

    I missed your post by about 5 minutes(unfortunatly) before charting down my triage path. I only added about a 1/2 pound of the AA let it sit for about 25 -30 minutes and started to run the filter.

    My PH budged a little (7.2-7.0) and chlorine was squashed.

    The water is still a little cloudy but I'm trying to be optimistic that it will begin to clear as the filter runs, my plan is to leave it on overnight. The cloudyness really concerns me because last year, prior to finding this site, I couldn't get rid of the cloudyness for anything. I think if you read through this thread it looks like Bonni had the same problem(cloudy) as I did last year. I tried everything, Clarifiers, Turning the vaccum over in the center of the pool over night. Nothing cleared it and it was very frustrating. The only thing I can think of that may be clouding the water is the damn metal. I'll keep posting and let you know how it works out. I'm still open to any other suggestions so keep'm coming. (My challenge is patience between posts.)

    Mbar - mentioned a flocking agent in some posts and that is something that I haven't tried yet.

    Just for the record - ive got a 18x48, entex, cartridge Filter, and self-rigged Skimmer/Vaccum attachment.**Couldn't survive with the GardenHose vaccum)

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    Good luck getting your water cleared. I think bringing your chlorine back in slowly may help. Keep us posted as to how it goes. I have cloudy water right now from Ascorbic Acid, but I'm in the middle of my stain removal so I'm not letting it bother me.

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    Thanks for the quick reply - I will keep the post updated with my progress

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    szampino, you don't need ascorbic acid unless you have staining. You just need to make sure you have the sequestering agent in the water - that is what holds the metals in suspension. You need to keep your chlorine no lower than 3ppms at all times with a cya of 30, if under a chlorine of 2ppms is the lowest. Since you had cloudy water, you want to keep your chlorine at shock levels till the cloudiness goes away! The ascorbic acid is what made the pool cloudy - you will now use up a lot of chlorine breaking down the ascorbic acid - so keep checking and don't let it fall under 3ppms for now, and you can even keep it up to 10 if you didn't have any staining before putting in the ascorbic acid. The only reason you have to take the chlorine up slowly after doing a stain treatment is in case there is any metals that have not been sequestered after the ascorbic acid lifted them, they will fall back out. Since you had no stain to lift, then the metals were already sequestered and you can raise your chlorine. Just keep your ph low when raising the chlorine - no higher than 7.3. Hope this explains a little more to you - feel free to ask any more questions you may have. If you are afraid metals have been introduced into the water,then it is a sequestering agent you want to add, not the ascorbic acid. The ascorbic acid is only to lift stains that have precipitated out of the water.
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