No vac to waste, maybe looking at a "trash pump"? Need suggestions

[ChuckD]

Hi all,
Been quite a while since my last activity here. So glad this forum (and Ben) are still around!

Pool is a 17x33 inground with a Hayward DE filter.

The perennial problem is getting out the sludge in the bottom this time of year. I've kept out most of the leaves and branches with a net overwinter, but the algae I've killed with algacide is now sitting on the bottom (along with the tree debris that slipped through the net). In the past I've futilely tried to vacuum it out but it clogs the DE filter so quickly I might recharge it four or five times before it's cleared.

The Hayward doesn't really have a "vac to waste" except for the outlet valve which would deposit all the water I remove on to the lawn, which is undesirable.

I envision a trash pump (I think it's called) sitting on the deck which I could then direct to a wooded area. Does such a thing exist that pool maintainers could recommend?
I've tried a couple local tool rental places and they mostly just scratch their heads.

[donfranko]

Hey Chuck cruising around and saw this. For what its worth and depending on your set up this is what I do for bottom waste on open. I have a Polaris cleaner with aux pump. I use the Polaris hose connection and a bottom skimmer (round blue plastic ring you attach a mesh bag to) and use the aux pump to create a venturi to pick up the junk on the bottom of the pool. Whatever goes through the mesh is circulated in pool and caught by the filter. It takes a while and plenty of back washes until I get to a point where the Polaris can take over. The ring and bag is usually used with a garden hose but I cant see adding more water on open since A) pool is filled/ high and B) adding water dilutes all your chems...and its costly.