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    ok, so yesterday [Sunday] when I check the pool in the morning it looked a little cloudy? Not sparkling clear. Sunday is busy with church and stuff so didn't do anything that morning so checked the chlorine level in the evening. It didn't register so I put in liquid chlorine (10%) from Wal mart. This morning little better, so whats up? Did nothing else to it.


    To the response of the dichlor, do I still need to use the liquid chlorine also? So never use stabilizer? Sorry with the questions but I don't want to mess it up!
    PF=10 - 12.5k gal 15x30 AG pool. Ecoaquapro.com pump & filter. 2HP 2spd pump; 120sft Black Diamond filter.

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    Bleach/dichlor is an either/or thing. I can't think of a reason why you'd need both at the same time, though maybe there could be some weird situation when it would be a good idea.

    Normally, you should use dichlor to chlorinate AND add stabilizer. Use bleach once your stabilizer is adequate. Use dichlor later, on an as-needed basis, to add stabilizer . . . and chlorinate at the same time.

    If you prefer, you can use granular stabilizer. But it's hard to dissolve, and often costs more -- even at 100% concentration -- than the Sam's dichlor. (Though the In-the-Swim dichlor on Amazon is currently nearly as cheap!)

    By the way -- and I need to say this more -- never, NEVER mix pool chemicals. They do fine together once dissolved in the pool. But in full concentrated form, outside the pool? Not so much! Plain stabilizer is particularly bad that way, and will react rather nastily with a number of things, if you are careless outside the pool.

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    ok..., its me again. Im having trouble with some yellow algae on bottom of pool and some on the sides. Easy to clean just use brush or vacuum and it goes but what do I use to stop it. Only using chlorine from Wal Mart.
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    Default Re: Nobody knows! Help Is it phosphates, water to hard.......

    1. Raise your chlorine levels to 2x whatever you've been keeping them at. Use bleach or 'liquid pool chlorine', rather than any stabilized form of chlorine (including almost ALL bagged chlorine!)

    2. Get a K2006 kit, test your water, and report the results. CYA (stabilizer) level is particularly significant, and one of the values strips measure very poorly.

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    ok, heres the results:
    6.4 FC
    .6 CC
    7.4 PH
    70 total alkalinity
    CYA doesn't register
    350ppm hardness
    have had trouble most of the season keeping stabilizer up, but pool is beautiful, just spots on side and bottom.

    Thank you!
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    Default Re: Nobody knows! Help Is it phosphates, water to hard.......

    OK, That doesn't completely make sense.

    Did the R0013 + pool water remain clear? Or was it so cloudy that the CYA "didn't register"?

    Clear ==> CYA < 20 ppm. // Super cloudy ==> CYA > 100 ppm

    If the CYA test mix was super cloudy,
    • mix 1/4 pool water with 3/4 tap water.
      (Use a shot glass, 1/8 cup measure, or even tablespoon measure.)
    • Add 1 unit pool water and then 3 units of tap water to a glass & stir
    • Retest mixture
    • Multiply result x4 for actual CYA reading.

    If it was clear, tell me whether you measure in the AM or PM, and whether it was sunny on the day you tested.

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    Default Re: Nobody knows! Help Is it phosphates, water to hard.......

    ok, if I did it right it was 55ppm. just a few minutes ago (this morning )with sun out.
    The water was cloudy.
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