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    Retest every day, though accuracy of chlorine testing will not be good until you get the taylor kit. Many pool problems are the result of not testing everyday, and inaccurate testing using strips or the pool store. I am sorry, I just noticed the size of your pool was 25K (thought I read 20K earlier), so would add 3 bottles of bleach.

    I am not familiar with gunite pools, so maybe someone else can chime in with what kind of brush to use.

    Just to clarify, you will need to use a chlorine source in the future that has calcium in it, you just don't need the stabilizer in the pucks right now. Again, someone familiar with gunite pools can add to this.
    17x29 AG soft side, 15k gallons, hayward 1.5hp pump, hayward 18in sandfilter, taylor K2006C kit.

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    Ok, I just got home and it's raining but I am heading out to pour in the bleach and remove the chlorine tabs. I will keep testing and update you! Also, since it appears its just you and I in this thread, I may post under algae and ask about the brush.
    25K gal 17'x40' freeform gunite pool with spa built Nov 2013. Paramount in floor cleaning system, paramount clear 03 system, Jandy cartridge filter

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    Test for black algae in this manner and report back:

    Do the fingernail test to verify that you've got black algae. Scarpe some of the algae so that it gets under your fingernail and then smear the collected stuff onto thick white paper. An index card will do. If it's black algae, it will be dark green. If not green, you have something else going on.
    26K gal 20x40 rectangular IG vinyl pool; Apr 2014: New pump, liner, auto-cover, & water; Pentair Whisperflo 1HP pump; Pentair Trition sand filter; Cover/Star CS-500 auto cover; Taylor K-2006C; OTO

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    How is your pool doing?
    26K gal 20x40 rectangular IG vinyl pool; Apr 2014: New pump, liner, auto-cover, & water; Pentair Whisperflo 1HP pump; Pentair Trition sand filter; Cover/Star CS-500 auto cover; Taylor K-2006C; OTO

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    Well, the spots are still there and I am still debating what the heck it is. I did shock it with 3 gallons of bleach a couple of weeks ago. The spots were and still are unchanged. At least they havent gotten any bigger or multiplied. I was out of town for a few days and was just able to test my water a minute ago. I used the Taylor K-2006 test kit.

    FC - 2ppm
    CC - 0
    PH - 7.8
    ALK - 110
    CAL - 270
    CYA 80

    I struggle with the CYA test. Do you drop until the black dot is really completely gone? It seems I can always make it out a little ... This time I just added until my hubs couldn't see it!
    25K gal 17'x40' freeform gunite pool with spa built Nov 2013. Paramount in floor cleaning system, paramount clear 03 system, Jandy cartridge filter

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    Default Re: Best Shock for Algae

    Quote Originally Posted by spatt View Post
    Well, the spots are still there and I am still debating what the heck it is. I did shock it with 3 gallons of bleach a couple of weeks ago. The spots were and still are unchanged. At least they havent gotten any bigger or multiplied. I was out of town for a few days and was just able to test my water a minute ago. I used the Taylor K-2006 test kit.

    FC - 2ppm
    CC - 0
    PH - 7.8
    ALK - 110
    CAL - 270
    CYA 80

    I struggle with the CYA test. Do you drop until the black dot is really completely gone? It seems I can always make it out a little ... This time I just added until my hubs couldn't see it!
    The spots are still there because 3 gallons of bleach was not enough to shock a 25K gallon pool. That would just get you started... some algae will only respond to VERY high levels of chlorine over an extended period.

    And having that level of CYA (80 ppm) in your pool works against you when you're trying to get rid of algae.

    If you type the results of your most recent test into a calculator, you'll see what I mean.

    http://poolcalculator.com

    If possible, drain some of the pool water until you can get CYA down to 30-40, ideally. Otherwise, shocking will require 20-40 ppm of chlorine -- perhaps more, over any number of days. That's a lot of bleach!

    To effectively rid your pool of the algae, prepare yourself for a multiple day attack. Buy twice as much bleach as you'll think you need. Buy that stainless steel brush and use it. It should be OK with gunite and it's meant to be abrasive. But any brush is superior to not brushing.

    ---

    "It actually looked like a rust stain at first then morphed into what looked like a clot of dirt stuck to the bottom then it started spreading. I am assuming it's black algae but the color is still rust so maybe mustard algae."

    Sure doesn't sound like green algae. Recommend using amount of chlorine appropriate for mustard algae.

    Start by dropping your pH to around 7.4. Do this because the chlorine will be more effective at a lower pH level and it will be impossible to test it in the days that you'll be shocking the water (the chlorine affects the phenol red pH indicator in Taylor kits).

    Then hit the pool with a dose of chorine that will bring it to shock level ALL AT ONCE. If you can do it in late afternoon or evening, all the better. Test the chlorine every few hours and first thing in the morning and KEEP adding chlorine to maintain shock level until there's no more than about 1 PPM drop in FC from midnight to dawn.

    If possible, run the main filter pump 24/7. The entire process could take a few days... to a few weeks. Some species of algae can survive high levels of chlorine for days or months which is why you must....

    Brush at least once every day.


    Clean the filter cartridges once this is all over to be sure nothing is lurking in there... and thereafter increase your minimum FC level to 10-15% of CYA.

    Example CYA 50 PPM x .10 = FC 5 PPM


    Best of luck to you!


    Oh yes, check out these pics of the CYA test at Taylor's website, linked below. The black dot really does disappear.

    WHY MONITOR CYANURIC ACID?
    https://www.taylortechnologies.com/C...P?ContentID=44
    16'x29' free-form 14K gal IG gunite pool; SWCG & sodium hypochlorite 8.25%; Hayward SwimClear C4025 cartridge filter; Hayward SP3202VSP TriStar Variable Speed Pool Pump; custom test kit based on Taylor K-2006C; city; PF:8.6

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    Default Re: Best Shock for Algae

    I'm sorry I am quick to respond but I do read posts as soon as they come up and put the advice into action.

    I could drain some of the pool but not half as the pool calculator states.

    I am lowering my PH today and adding bleach tonight.

    Wish me luck ..
    25K gal 17'x40' freeform gunite pool with spa built Nov 2013. Paramount in floor cleaning system, paramount clear 03 system, Jandy cartridge filter

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    I decided to do a partial drain to get my CYA down before shocking. This took a few days to accomplish because my husband had to track down the pumps. The CYA is still at 60. I guess since the pumps are still here, I will drain again, re-adjust PH to 7.4 and shock. The pool calculator is a GREAT TOOL! I had never seen it before.
    25K gal 17'x40' freeform gunite pool with spa built Nov 2013. Paramount in floor cleaning system, paramount clear 03 system, Jandy cartridge filter

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