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    Default DE, What is It?

    What is DE's role in pool maintenance? I understand that there are DE filter systems and that these are very effective at filtering ultra small micron particles from the water. But I've also read that DE is used as an additive (not a filter medium) to the water. It somehow "cleans" water?

    Shucks, I've even read that its great against ant colonies and for pets (flea control and food supplement). But that's too far off topic. What does it do for pools?

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    DE is diatomecous earth (spelling is prob off) which is fossilized sand and earth. These very fine sand particles (silica) coat the filter and the rough edges of the DE catch those very fine particles. So what you would traditionally call a filter is actually a medium to hold the DE which does the filtering and polishing.
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    Default Re: DE, What is It?

    Quote Originally Posted by cheshamjim
    But I've also read that DE is used as an additive (not a filter medium) to the water. It somehow "cleans" water?
    I have never heard this before and can't imagine it being true. It is solely for filtration medium when used in swimming pools. Some people do add small amounts of DE to their sand filters to increase the filtration capability.

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    I think we are dealing in semantics here. Unlike a sand filter where the sand = the medium a DE filter has grids which get coated with DE. It is these DE coated 'fingers' that filter, clean and polish the water. The DE is not a chemical that is going to clarify the pool... it is about as inert as you can get.
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    Food Supplement? I have used DE (thanks to the member that told me the other day) to kill ants but seeing as how it is a hazard to humans and kills ants I don't know if I would mix in some of my L's DE to wolfy's bowl of food.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleach=Chlorine?
    Food Supplement? I have used DE (thanks to the member that told me the other day) to kill ants but seeing as how it is a hazard to humans and kills ants I don't know if I would mix in some of my L's DE to wolfy's bowl of food.
    The hazard is when it is airborne as a dust. It is about as inert as it can get, chemically.

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    It is a breathing hazard... physically. Silicia sand is not the nicest stuff and now you are going to put it in front of your face??? I know it is an inert substance, I said it above in a post and I don't expect you to blow up but I dislike touching the stuff let alone eating it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleach=Chlorine?
    I think we are dealing in semantics here. Unlike a sand filter where the sand = the medium a DE filter has grids which get coated with DE. It is these DE coated 'fingers' that filter, clean and polish the water. The DE is not a chemical that is going to clarify the pool... it is about as inert as you can get.
    actually a 'filter medium' is the substance that does the filtering and the filter is the unit that holds the filter medium...so in a sand filter the medium is filter sand, In a DE filter the medium is DE (the grids just hold the DE in place while the filter is running), and in a cartridge filter the medium is either Reemay polyester (bet you weren't expecting that!) or (in cheap ones like the Intex doughnut's filter) paper. All these are considered mechanical filters. They physcially trap the dirt and remove it from the water column in exactly the same way. The only difference is in how small a particle they can trap and hold. Zeolite, used as a sand replacement in sand filters, is a mechanical AND chemical filter because of it's ability to bind ammonia to it in addtion to trapping particles.
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