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    Default Re: CYA disappeared over winter?

    Thanks for the help, chem geek.
    I brought it up to about 25 ppm last night (~9pm) - I overshot :-(
    At 7am it was 15 ppm FC, no CC that I could read.
    9am : 13 ppm FC
    1:30pm : 2 ppm FC

    I've tested again and see basically no CYA in my test.

    I took a water sample to the pool store about 2pm. They concur with 0.6 ppm FC, CYA of 32 ppm. The pool store, of course, wanted to sell me phosphate remover (they tested at 500 ppb phosphates), which I declined.

    According to the "Best Guess Guide", the behavior I see is more like the "nearly zero" CYA than the pool store's report of 32 ppm. 32 ppm feels like a reasonable target for CYA...

    I did buy 1.75 lbs of CYA. According to the label, 1.75 lbs of CYA should raise the level in my 20K gal pool by about 10 ppm. I went ahead and added the 1.75 lb, plus more bleach to keep FC above zero.

    So, questions:
    1) I assume I did good by ignoring the phosphate remover, right?

    2) Since I read basically zero CYA and the pool store reads 32 ppm, adding just one container (1.75 lb) CYA seems warranted and safe. Was that reasonable, or should I add more (or, maybe, less)?
    2a) Is there a consensus on a good target for CYA? This is an outside pool, with moderate/low sun exposure.

    3) Chem Geek mentions that this can happen to a pool that is "let go with no chlorine over the winter". I honestly don't know how to maintain chlorine levels over the winter... I start adding a little chlorine early in the spring, then open the pool later (about now). It is always green, sometimes I can't see the drain at the deep end. I vacuum, adjust pH, then start adding bleach, vacuum, repeat..., until it clears up (usually 2-4 days). Am I doing this in a reasonable fashion?

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    Default Re: CYA disappeared over winter?

    So your overnight loss is slowing down but to prevent loss during the day you need to get CYA in the water. You can either add pure CYA or can use Dichlor granulated chlorine to add both chlorine and CYA at the same time. Keep your FC level elevated to be around 40% of the CYA level until your overnight FC loss lowers to around 1 ppm or less.

    Yes, you did well ignoring the phosphate remover. That would not have helped.

    A reasonable target CYA is around 50 ppm in a pool exposed to sunlight. Some pools need more (but not more than 80 ppm) while some are OK with less.

    To avoid the pool turning green over the winter and to lessen the chance of bacterial breakdown of CYA, you should close the pool as late as possible with the pool water cooler than 50ºF and at that time you can shock with chlorine and also add Polyquat 60 algaecide. Then in the spring you want to open the pool as early as possible before the water gets any warmer than 50ºF.
    15.5'x32' rectangle 16K gal IG concrete pool; 12.5% chlorinating liquid by hand; Jandy CL340 cartridge filter; Pentair Intelliflo VF pump; 8hrs; Taylor K-2006 and TFTestkits TF-100; utility water; summer: automatic; winter: automatic; ; PF:7.5

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