Pump Woes

[waste]

Null, as you are still on the forum, I guess I caught you before you went to the store. My $ quote was based on what our store would charge ($240 for the motor, $15 for the seal and $4-5 for the housing gasket). You are getting much better prices wherever you're going, a new pump would be over $400 from us. That said, save yourself some hastle and get the whole pump, I was trying to save you some $, but for $280 the new pump makes sense.
Al, thanks for the education, I've only seen the inside of the motor once (~1990) and was told that there were brushes in them - sorry for disseminating BS
As to a cause for the failure, poor maintenance. A lot of folks keep all their pool stuff together for the winter, pump, filter, skimmer baskets, etc as well as thier chems - including tri chlor tabs. As I said before, even tightly sealed cl will vent off and oxidize all metals in the area - add a compromised shaft seal (with the often acidic water from using tri chlor) ... and it's rust city!


Good luck with the new pump, you probably won't need it but, if any advice is required to get the new one in, just ask - that's why we're here

[CarlD]

OK,
Your motor is plastered--I seriously doubt that's DE--looks like corrosion to me.

You'll need parts to get the pump back together, and then either need a new motor (doesn't have to be Hayward) or a repair job. Plus there's the time element where your pool has no filtering.

Sounds like an IDEAL opportunity to upgrade. That doesn't mean a more powerful pump--it means a pump that is quieter, more energy efficient, and maybe 2 speeds (once you have a 2 spd pump you NEVER want a single speed again!). You may even be able to use a LOWER HP pump and get the same performance.

[NullQwerty]

Thx everyone. Waste I did get your message before heading out. Thx for the advice!

Sorry CarlD...Headed to the store before getting your message unfortunately so I hadn't even considered a dual speed or even any other pump. Just bought the same one as I had before. It's the Hayward Super Pump 1.5 HP. Before I open it, are you thinking I should return it and get something else instead? Paid $297 with tax. I had just assumed it was a decent pump since I had read about so many people owning them. I obviously prefer not returning it but if you think I made a mistake here, then I would.

[duraleigh]

How many gallons in your pool and can you see a gpm rating on the filter? (or find that rating on a web site)

Those two things best determine the size of your pump.

[NullQwerty]

It's a 36 X 18 foot inground vinyl. Deep end is 8 feet and shallow is 2 or 3. So, my guess is about 24,000 gallons. The pump is the Hayward EC-65 which is 67 gpm.

Edit: 67 gpm was specs from the internet. The filter itself says Flow range is 35-65 gpm

[duraleigh]

If your filter is rated for AT LEAST that many gpm's, the pump size is fine.

[NullQwerty]

If your filter is rated for AT LEAST that many gpm's, the pump size is fine.

Got your message after I wrote that last one. Ok, so the previous pump that was used was too small then?

The filter actually says the flow range is 35 to 65 GPM

[NullQwerty]

D'oh!!! My pool documentation from when I purchased the home was wrong. The previous owner had written down that I had 1.5 HP pump, and I guess I never doublechecked. I just noticed that my previous pump is a 3/4.

So, I called up 2 pool stores but both said that I want either a 1 or a 1.5.

What do you guys think? Did I buy the wrong size pump (1.5 hp), or will I be fine with it?

Also just to mention, the pool has 2 return jets (using a multi-valve port set to 1/2) and 1 skimmer. The return and suction lines are 1.5" thick.