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    Default Help Sizing and Selecting Natural Gas Heater for AGP

    I hate to watch my family go use the friend's pool because ours is too cold!

    I could use some help picking the right heater. My pool surface area is about 500 sq. ft. with a volume of about 1900 cu. ft. (on-ground 24' round) and I live in RI so I'll want to raise the temp 20-25 deg. F. I have Natural Gas at the house and do not want to deal with Propane tanks.

    I'm looking for something reliable (fewer fancy features a plus), efficient, and fairly quiet (in that order).

    I'd be thankful for your suggestions and experience!
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    Default Re: Help Sizing and Selecting Natural Gas Heater for AGP

    You might consider a heat pump. They're more expensive to buy but cheaper to operate and require only electrical and pool water connection - no gas plumbing. Solar is also cheaper to operate but only heats when the sun shines.
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    Thanks BigDave. I had considered a heat pump, but I do not believe I will be able to recover from 58 degree June nights for pool use during the day. m I wrong about this?
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    Hi bottomcat I would suggest a 150,000 BTU heater for your application as this size unit would give you a 30 degree temperature rise. The unit I like is the Raypak 014784 heater, this is a 150,000 BTU unit and in my experience has been very reliable. I would also highly recommend using a solar blanket when your pool is not in use as evaporation accounts for nearly 70% of the heat loss in your pool.
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    Thanks patrick3229. Do you know the efficiency and dB level of this unit?
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    I've seen heat pump claims to operate down to 50F.
    I agree about the thermal blanket, It makes a huge difference in my pool with solar panels.

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    BigDave, I have also seen that they will operate at fairly low temperatures, but that they simply are not capable of bringing the water up substantially over a reasonable time frame. What are you using there in New Jersey besides the solar panels? How long is your swim season?

    Anyone else have any heaters that they have been happy with or ones that have been poor?
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    Default Re: Help Sizing and Selecting Natural Gas Heater for AGP

    The efficiency rating on that Raypak heater is 82% unfortunately I do not have dB rating.

    In regards to the heat pumps.... Heat pumps draw in the outside air to heat the water so as the outside temperature drops the efficiency and effectiveness of the heat pump drops, typically all of the performance data on the heat pumps is set at an outside temperature of 82 degrees. So even if the unit can work at the lower temperature they will be far less efficient then when operating at warmer temperatures.
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    patrick3229, I agree. I love the idea of a heat pump (and hate the idea of paying a big gas bill) but with the money already invested in the pool and deck, I want it to be comfy!

    What factors contribute towards reliability in your opinion?
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    Default Re: Help Sizing and Selecting Natural Gas Heater for AGP

    @bottomcat: how do you expect to use the pool / heater when the weather turns chilly? Are you thinking you'll heat it when you want to swim or keep it warm so it'll be ready when you are?

    Me, I don't open until until memorial day because of the pollen and pods. The swim season is pretty much over when the kids return to school school after Labor Day. Maybe, if the weather is with us we can sneak a dip for a week or two after school starts.

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