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    i run 0 cya, because when i tried to run a cya of 30-40 it was too much trouble because every 1-2 weeks i need to add 1-2" of water loss due to evaporation and also because of rain the cya was always low and i was constantly adding cya powder to bring it back up which was costing too much money. so instead i just add 2.5gallons of 10% bleach per week, half on monday other half on thurs or friday and float a 3" tablet 1 per week. this system works well for me.

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    I like to start off with a cya of 30, then I use bleach and pucks during the summer. Starting off with 30 leaves me room to use the pucks for whey I am away and when I need them for stains. I also throw one in when my ph gets high, those pucks sure bring the ph down quick.
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    I keep mine at 80-90. I live in a HOT climate, my pool is full sun all day, and I have a large swimmer load on a daily basis. If I try to keep mine lower, there's no way to keep up with the chlorine demand without taking a chance on an algae bloom.

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    I like to start out around 30ppm or less as well. This leaves me room to use the inline feeder with pucks supplemented by bleach until I reach 50. I then go straight to bleach.

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    try and keep mine between 60 and 80 ppm because that is what the manufacturer of my SWG recommends and a call to their tech support line told me that it is recommended at that high a level with a SWG because of the 'superchlorination' that takes place in the cell whenever it is generating chlorine. Don't know how true it is but I do know that when the levels are in that range the pool water sparkles and my FC levels stay pretty constant. I have a leak which the builder has yet to fix and my cya dropped to maybe 20 over a 3 month period and I started having all kinds of problems holding chlorine in the pool once the cya got below about 40 ppm!
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    Quote Originally Posted by aylad
    I keep mine at 80-90. I live in a HOT climate, my pool is full sun all day, and I have a large swimmer load on a daily basis. If I try to keep mine lower, there's no way to keep up with the chlorine demand without taking a chance on an algae bloom.

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    Ditto. I pull a bucket of pool water, set the Cl level with bleach, and test it during the day. On a moderately high UV day (8), I use 3.5ppm Cl at 80ppm CYA. I then calculate what cell output level is needed for various run times to generate that amount of Cl.

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    Running at 30 now. Save the pucks for going away. Try to keep below 50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bleach=Chlorine?
    Running at 30 now. Save the pucks for going away. Try to keep below 50.
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    Thanks for all the responses

    Quote Originally Posted by aylad
    I keep mine at 80-90. I live in a HOT climate, my pool is full sun all day, and I have a large swimmer load on a daily basis. If I try to keep mine lower, there's no way to keep up with the chlorine demand without taking a chance on an algae bloom.

    Janet
    Janet, Please correct me if I'm wrong.

    I was under the impression that while stabilizer keeps chlorine in the pool, it prevents some of it from doing it's job and therefore more is needed to do the same sanitizing job as lower amounts in a low/no stabilizer pool.

    For example, imagine after a party, 3 busboys (FC) start cleaning up. 2 drunken women wander back in (stabilizer) and grab two of the busboys and start dancing. There's still 3 busboys in the room, but only one is doing an work. Manager (pool owner) quickly sends 2 more busboys in to do the work, now there's 5 busboys in the room, but only the 3 are doing any work, the same as was getting done without the drunks.

    If this is how it works, why is CYA even needed at all?

    In the past before finding this forum, I like others ran a sky high CYA because the pool store wanted it that way. Now I know why...

    I used bleach about 1/2 of last season, and closed it with bleach. This spring my CYA is low, about 20ish, and I'm maintaining FC between 3-5 ppm, and so far so good.

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    I think one of the "chemistry buffs" can explain this more technically that I can, but my understanding is that the CYA doesn't "tie-up" the free chlorine - if it did then it would change to combined chlorine (which is bad).

    The CYA does inhibit the FC to do its job as well - so to add to your analogy- it would be two drunk women talking to the bus boy while he is cleaning - making him slower but able to stay around come AM - while the bus boy with out the drunk women (CYA) around would die like a vampire come first light.

    If you have some CYA then you still have some chlorine working when it is sunny.
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