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    Default Re: Need a better phosphate remover

    The Orenda PR10,000 is one effective product and reasonably priced for the amount of phosphate it removes. A pint is around $25 and will remove 5000 ppb per 10,000 gallons so should be more than enough for your pool.
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    Thanks chem geek. If those numbers are right, I would only need about an ounce of that product for my situation. Sounds like it may be too concentrated for normal residential pool use.
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    You need to remove 1000 ppb from 18,000 gallons and for their product one quart (32 fluid ounces) removes 10,000 ppb from 10,000 gallons so you need (32 fluid ounces) * (1000 ppb / 10,000 ppb) * (18,000 gallons / 10,000 gallons) = 5.76 fluid ounces, NOT one ounce. Their pint has 16 fluid ounces so has more than you need, but it's not extraordinary and I don't think you'll find a less expensive bottle of another product.
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    OK, my mistake. I reversed the 18/10 in my quick calculation. A couple quick questions: does this product contain a clarifier? Or will I need to buy a separate product for that? Where can I actually buy it? The orendatech.com site does not appear to have any sales functionality. I checked Amazon but they only sell 5 and 15 gallon sizes (a wee bit more than I need). A few pool sites appear to offer the smaller sizes, but not at the price you mentioned. Thanks.
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    Chem Geek may be on later with his pricing although $25 may have been just an approximation. I have been looking to purchase some also. The cheapest I can find online for 1 pint is $23.91 plus $9.99 shipping for a total of $33.90. There is a store in McKinney (near Dallas) that has it in stock for $28.95 plus $2.39 tax totaling $31.34.
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    Thanks. I'm not too far from McKinney, so that might be an option to get it into my pool quicker.
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    McKinney Pools
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    Default Re: Need a better phosphate remover

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM View Post
    OK, my mistake. I reversed the 18/10 in my quick calculation. A couple quick questions: does this product contain a clarifier? Or will I need to buy a separate product for that?
    It does not have a clarifier and yes it will cloud the water but that will filter out so you'd only use a clarifier if you were impatient. If you want a clarifier, a couple of good ones are GLB Clear Blue and BioGuard Polysheen Blue.

    Yes, my $25 was based on online prices but without shipping.
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    Did you get it?
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    Default Re: Need a better phosphate remover

    Quote Originally Posted by FormerBromineUser View Post
    Did you get it?
    No. That store in McKinney has none in stock. In fact, no pool store within reasonable driving distance stocks the Orenda PR-10000. I've checked them all. I've not been able to find a reasonable online source either. All the online sellers fall into one or more of these categories:

    1. Only sell the larger sizes.
    2. Want to charge $15-25 to ship one pint.
    3. Look really sketchy, like a 12-year-old built the website.

    I don't understand why Amazon only sells the industrial size containers. Anyway, is there another product that you guys recommend, which I can actually get my hands on, preferably via Amazon? I was thinking about Kem-Tek. But PoolDoc had indicated that the Clorox product (which didn't work for me) is a re-labeled version of Kem-Tek. So I'm not sure that's a good option. There is a SeaKlear commercial phosphate remover which claims to remove 9000ppb per 10kgal for $43 and free shipping (1 qt). I think that makes it a better value than Orenda anyway, especially with free shipping, and almost same effectiveness. Any experience with this product?

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