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    Quote Originally Posted by ratgirl
    The fellow didn't actually sell us anything, nor did he give us any numbers. He used one of those strips with the little squares on them, and them recomended what we buy. So 3-4 gallons of bleach a day? Even now that the size of the pool is known?
    Deffinately will pick up one of those leaf rakes, and a pool testing kit so I can get "numbers" for you all.
    Thanks so much, you've all been so much help.
    1 gallon of regular bleach (5.25%) adds exactly 5.25ppm of chlorine to 10,000 gallons.

    1 gallon of Ultra bleach (6%) adds exactly 6ppm of chlorine to 10,000 gallons.

    The size of your pool, and the level of CYA (stabilizer) determines how much chlorine you should use in general, and how much you should use to shock it when you have algae growing. It's called the "Best Guess CYA chart" and it's in the Using Chlorine...forum.

    There's also a beginner's chemistry guide in the Testing...forum that I wrote and Watermom stuck there. These should help you understand that basics.

    If you have a pool store test your water, ALWAYS ask for the results, even if you have to write them down. It's classic for them to take a reading and inevitably recommend that you add lots of chemicals, usually all at once! The object should be to help get your pool healthy, not sell a lot of chemicals. I don't blame the clerks in the stores--they usually get their instructions from the owners, who are fed a line of buffalo chips by the chem companies...whose object is to sell lots of chemicals whether you need them or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarlD
    1 gallon of regular bleach (5.25%) adds exactly 5.25ppm of chlorine to 10,000 gallons.

    1 gallon of Ultra bleach (6%) adds exactly 6ppm of chlorine to 10,000 gallons.

    The size of your pool, and the level of CYA (stabilizer) determines how much chlorine you should use in general, and how much you should use to shock it when you have algae growing. It's called the "Best Guess CYA chart" and it's in the Using Chlorine...forum.

    There's also a beginner's chemistry guide in the Testing...forum that I wrote and Watermom stuck there. These should help you understand that basics.

    If you have a pool store test your water, ALWAYS ask for the results, even if you have to write them down. It's classic for them to take a reading and inevitably recommend that you add lots of chemicals, usually all at once! The object should be to help get your pool healthy, not sell a lot of chemicals. I don't blame the clerks in the stores--they usually get their instructions from the owners, who are fed a line of buffalo chips by the chem companies...whose object is to sell lots of chemicals whether you need them or not.


    Stabilizer . . . . . . Min. FC . . . . Max FC . . . 'Shock' FC
    => 0 ppm . . . . . . . 1 ppm . . . . . 3 ppm . . . . 10 ppm
    => 10 - 20 ppm . . . . 2 ppm . . . . . 5 ppm . . . . 12 ppm
    => 30 - 50 ppm . . . . 3 ppm . . . . . 6 ppm . . . . 15 ppm
    => 60 - 90 ppm . . . . 5 ppm . . . . . 10 ppm . . .. 20 ppm
    => 100 - 200 ppm . . . 8 ppm . . . . . 15 ppm . . .. 25 ppm

    ^^^That thing? I don't get it. I imagine what I want is shock FC, but what ppm would I want? That's confusing! So being that I have 5000 gallons rather than 10, I would be getting 12ppm from 1 gallon of ultra bleach? Would I want something that high?

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    The easiest way to take the "math" out of it is to download the BleachCalc and let it do the calculations for you.

    http://www.hal-pc.org/~mwsmith2/BleachCalc262.exe

    It was written by one of our forum members. It's a real time-saver. And yes, until your pool clears up, you will want to maintain "shock" level for your chlorine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ratgirl
    Stabilizer . . . . . . Min. FC . . . . Max FC . . . 'Shock' FC
    => 0 ppm . . . . . . . 1 ppm . . . . . 3 ppm . . . . 10 ppm
    => 10 - 20 ppm . . . . 2 ppm . . . . . 5 ppm . . . . 12 ppm
    => 30 - 50 ppm . . . . 3 ppm . . . . . 6 ppm . . . . 15 ppm
    => 60 - 90 ppm . . . . 5 ppm . . . . . 10 ppm . . .. 20 ppm
    => 100 - 200 ppm . . . 8 ppm . . . . . 15 ppm . . .. 25 ppm

    ^^^That thing? I don't get it. I imagine what I want is shock FC, but what ppm would I want? That's confusing! So being that I have 5000 gallons rather than 10, I would be getting 12ppm from 1 gallon of ultra bleach? Would I want something that high?
    Yup, you got it, all of it! You want the Shock FC level that matches your CYA/stabilizer level. And, yes, you would want a MINIMUM FC level of 12 ppm to clear your water--more if you have more CYA.

    You can use the bleach calculator if the math is a struggle.
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    Hello, we've purchased a water testing kit that actually gives number results but the chlorine is too high to test the PH at the moment. Anyway, our water does seem a bit better, however the "waste" thing on the pump is leaking. Does anyone know why that might be happening? My step father just cleaned the pump free of TONS of leaves that we had no idea were there, and since then the waste things been leaking. I dunno what would cause that, and he's getting angry over the whole thing. *sigh* We should have just gotten someone to come in and open the pool for us, and show us the workings of the thing.

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    OMGosh, I can see the skimmer all the way down to the bottom of the pool! This must be good. Will continue bleaching for a few days.

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    Just want to throw in that you can often go to the manufacturer of the pump/filter's website and get the documentation you need to see that the thing's set up and running right. Get the name of the pump and plug it into Google (your next best friend after this forum!).

    ChuckD

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    <3 Thank you!

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