Cloudy Green Pool - Vacuum and Brush?

[ccostan]

Thanks for the speedy answers. It is appreciated. I am truly trying to LEARN the ways of the pool so that someday, I can give back to the forum. Thanks again.

In an effort to help you help me and to help me learn, I have started a pool journal. Here are the details so far - I omitted the Cursing and crying entries.

5/28 - 8pm - FC 0, TA 40, PH 6.0 - Added 2 Bags of Shock. Clorinator filled with Tri-Ch set to 5 out of 7 on the dial.

5/28 - 10pm - FC 3.0, TA -40, PH 6.0

5/29 - 11AM - FC - 3.0, TA - 0, PH - 6.2, CYA - 0 - Added 3 lbs of PH UP (Last of the Pool Junk).

The Filter has been running 24/7 and the Chlorinator dial has been left at 5 out of 7 and is FILLED with 3 inch tri chlor pucks.
I also have 1 return jet connected to a fountain sprayer (to calm me so I don't lose it to Pool Madness). The pool is a Vinyl liner.

Thanks again for all the help!
CARLO.

Carlo @ IPM.com

[pairadocs]

Fellow Noob here - I had it the same way a few weeks ago, and now have perfect water and have learned tons all due to the help of veterans at this site.

I started out green brown, then went to blue but milk cloudy even at shallow end.

Here is what I did, and what you should kinda do:

Get a liquid/drop test kit - if not the super great kit from the sister site, at least a basic kit from a pool store for 20-30 bucks, but i'd still suggest the better kit from the sister site.

You need to test frequently, maybe 2-3 times daily, for at least ph, FC, TC, CYA. Testing for the other stuff helps even more, and best suggestions will be given to you from the veterans if you have ALL of the numbers and letters, not just some.

I can tell you that the sole reason my pool did not clear quicker was because I did not follow directions from aforementioned veterans at this site. Specifically, I did not test enough, and I continued to throw tons of powdered stuff called shock, super shock, into the pool, which just served to make my pool cloudier and requires even more brushing!

Also, I failed to do what I was told with the bleach/chlorine - I did not raise the level high enough to kill off all the bad bugs that are fighting back at my paltry attempts to add bleach.

In the end, once my pool would maintian a FC above 10, I had clear water. This took one week of my own stupidity and not doing what I was told by this site's members, and then took a mere 1-2 days and approx 30 gallons of bleach over those 1-2 days - added about 8-10 gallons 5% bleach at 3 different episodes about 8-12 hours apart, and whala, normal pool.

Bleach = chlorine, now go find some cheap stuff, a drop test kit, and add alot, cause you need it.

If need be, PM me or reply to this thread, and I will help, but I am not as good as the others. My best suggestion is to search for my previous posts by clicking on my username or using search function, and read my posts, and then do the exact opposite of what I did

Really, it is very simple, bleach is life.

rjf

Oh yeah, keep brushing, and running the filter 24/7 and probably get rid of the pucks for now, but let a veteran confirm that suggestion.

[ccostan]

Thanks ParaDocs,

I am going to go out now and pick up some PLAIN Clorox Bleach (4 - 5 Jugs) and wait to hear for some specific recommendations for adding it.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

Carlo.

[pairadocs]

Thanks ParaDocs,

I am going to go out now and pick up some PLAIN Clorox Bleach (4 - 5 Jugs) and wait to hear for some specific recommendations for adding it.

Thanks for the vote of confidence!

Carlo.

You'll need to post today's current water test values. At the very least, go to a pool store, if one is open (Leslie's is open today in Delaware) and get a test kit made by Taylor, cost is $25 and it test for many things, ph, FC, TC, Alk, etc.

You'll need to post your FC levels at the very least, to determine how much bleach to add.

In my experience, you'll need to add all 6 bottles, several times over the next several days, until pool is clear. As I said before, it took me 30 + gallons of bleach, but it fixed it in 2 days time, and that was by testing to keep the FC above 10 until it cleared - that is the crucial part. Don't go up and down with FC - no yoyoing up and down, hold at 10+.

rjf

[ccostan]

Well I have joined the ranks of Bleach users. - I poured 5 gallons of 5.25% bleach ($1.69 a Gallon @ PathMark) which according to the bleach Calc will raise my FC ppm to 12. Tested an hour later and FC is above 10. Added the last of the pool store ALK to bring that up since mine was at 40 ppm. Brushed the entire pool down and will wait til morning. If the FC goes back down, I have another 6 Jugs in the Shed to add. I'll keep you posted. I definately want to add to the Bleach success stories.

Thanks for all the support!
CARLO.

[ccostan]

So it is the next morning and nothing has changed (even a LITTLE).. I am getting VERY fustrated at this point and the wife is losing faith.

Here are the diary logs (Again Minus the Crying and Cursing.)

5/29 11am - PH 6.2,FC 3.0, TA 40, CYA 0 - Added 3lbs of PH UP.
5/29 1:30pm - PH 6.4, FC 2.0, TA 40, CYA 0
5/29 5PM - PH 6.0, FC 2.0, TA 40, CYA 0 - Added 5 GALLONS Bleach 5.25%
5/29 8:30pm - PH 6.0 FC 10+, TA 40, CYA 0
5/30 1am - PH 6.0, FC 10+, TA 40, CYA 0
5/30 9am - PH 6.0, FC 10+, TA 40, CYA 0
5/30 12PM - PH 6.0, FC 10+, TA 40, CYA 0.

Nothing is changing in terms of color but I do have the strong smell of chlorine but the FC remains above 10. I'm puzzled. I am going to Lowes RIGHT now to get a more accurate drop tester. I'll be ordering Bens but need to clear up this pool now. A picture is worth a 1000 words so I have attached one of the pool in it's current state.

Please help!
CARLO.
Carlo @ ipm.com

30,000 IG Vinyl pool Currently Green.
Brooklyn, NY.

[pairadocs]

you've probably already learned this by now, but your numbers are off and you need to modify things.

ph is too low

cya is nonexistent, too low.

I'll let the elders tell you what to do.
I know they'll say to get a better test kit with liquid drops, and then recheck your numbers because they are strange.

once your numbers are right, for enough time - hours to days, your pool will be OK. The first P in P-o-o-l stands for Patience, i've learned.

is that your pool vac tubing that is visible in the picture?