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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    Dave, always a pleasure to help the good folks here.

    Take care of the pool first, then worry about the deck.



    Your pool is most certainly 'out of square' and, as such, will require a custom liner. If the budget allows, why not 'shallow up' the pool?

    I have never had much success with the 'rigid foam', but maybe I just never learned to do it right.. My preference is vermiculite however, you can use sand or sand and cement or regular concrete for a pool base - I'll help tell you how to apply any of them.

    If you DIY you'll need to properly measure the pool before ordering the new liner - I can help with that.

    I'm also worried that your stair faceplates and gaskets may need replacing.

    You've taken on a BIG job - I can help you with any phase of it, but you need patience and we need to communicate throughout the rehab, so that you don't inadvertantly harm the pool while fixing it.
    Luv & Luk, Ted

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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    Thanks,

    I am planning on adding the 2" foam to the existing hopper bottom
    Then add some 8x16 pavers to hold them in place, add sand/small rock to level off.....then compact as much as possible
    Then pour a new floor on top of the sand etc..........I'm thinking of only raising the floor less then 12"

    2" rigid, 2" sand etc....Then 4" concrete on top of that - would that be enough ?
    I'm not sure fo the difference between concrete and cement......just the mix ?
    If the vermiculite/sand/cement mix is better then I can go with that, HD has 2 cu ft vermiculite bags for $21

    Smoother is better for the liner

    Thanks
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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    pool chart data processed . . . .

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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    Quote Originally Posted by PoolDoc View Post
    pool chart data processed . . . .
    Thanks...question regarding the pool chart data...I can't access it
    On different pool volume calculators my pool volume always came out around 19,000g....which I thought was high
    Mainly due to the way my pool is formed...sides that slope in etc
    I always thought I could have a more accurate volume with something like autocad
    Does the pool chart use a more accurate calculator ? ---since I *think* my signature volume was update to 16,600 g
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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    An AutoCAD calculation would be WAY more accurate. The algorithm used on the Pool Chart is my own, and makes the following assumptions:

    1. Break begins 1/3 of the distance from the shallow to the deep end.
    2. Hopper bottom (straight slopes) rather than bowl bottom.
    3. Actual water level is 6" below listed depths.

    It does not account for a 4" - 6" shelf around the deep end.

    Pool salesmen consistently over-estimate pool volumes, as a sales tool.

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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    Thanks.....great to have a closer approximation of the actual water in the pool
    Raising the bottom will decrease the volume even more......easier to solar heat the pool
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    Default Re: Replacing a liner in a 16x32' inground pool

    Quote Originally Posted by DIYLINER View Post
    Raising the bottom will decrease the volume even more......easier to solar heat the pool
    Not as much as you think -- most of the heat loss in an AG pool is from the surface, and 2nd most is from the top 12" the pool sides.

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