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    Hello,

    I've been having a bit of trouble keeping my pool clear and cloud-free, and I wanted to ask a question about pump and sand filter sizing.

    I have a 24' round (45" of water) pool with a WMC Hydron F500 sand filter, and a Jacuzzi (can't read the model no.) pump with a 1.5HP Magnetek pump, I'm not sure as to the GPM of the pump. The filter lists the following specs:

    Filter Area: 2.2 Square Feet
    19.5 GPM/Square Foot
    43 GPM
    150lb of Media
    Maximum Pressure: 37 PSI

    The sand media was replaced last year when I replaced the multiport valve assembly. I'm concerned that the pump is too powerful for the filter, and the water is just being blasted through the media without actually being filtered.

    I have a spare Jacuzzi Laser (L160, I believe) sand filter (that was blowing sand into a relative's pool), along with an identical Jacuzzi pump to mine, except it has a 1.0HP motor.

    The filter seems to be a little big for the pool, which is fine, but I'm concerned about the pump.

    Thanks,
    Nick

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    Default Re: Question about Pump/Sand Filter Sizing

    Are all your Chemical tests balanced and leading you to this conclusion? I think your pump is about right for your filter, Have you tried taking the return from the filter off and filling a bucket up with the filtered water? Maybe with that you will be able to see if in fact your pump is just blowing through the sand.. Not an expert but thought i would just try to give advise.

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    Default Re: Question about Pump/Sand Filter Sizing

    Nick,
    I think you are very likely right that a 1.5hp pump is too powerful for a 150lb. sand filter and is blasting stuff right through the sand bed. We see this a lot on AG pools. That is an awful big pump for a 24ft pool.

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    Default Re: Question about Pump/Sand Filter Sizing

    Thanks!

    Would it be prudent to swap out the 1.5HP motor for the 1 horse? The pumps are identical, so I'd only have to swap the motor. Would that bring my GPM down closer to the limits of the filter? I have a feeling my wallet would feel a little better about it, too.

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    Default Re: Question about Pump/Sand Filter Sizing

    Actually you'd might just burn up the motor -- the reasons get too complex to cover briefly. But, to accomplish what you want -- IF it's possible -- you'd need to swap the impeller, seal, and possibly diffuser. It wouldn't be necessary to change out the actual motor.

    I'll ask Mark to look at it tomorrow, when I process your registration.

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    Default Re: Question about Pump/Sand Filter Sizing

    Sometimes people use the words pump and motor synonymously so I just want to make sure I understand completely. Are you proposing to swap JUST the motors or the entire pump with motor? As Ben pointed out, downsizing just the motor is a problem but if you swap the entire pump, that is ok.

    Without any additional information, my guess is that pump is producing at least 65 GPM which is technically more than the filter can handle. A 1 HP Jacuzzi would be slightly better but still exceeding the 43 GPM spec. To get down to that flow rate, you will probably need the smallest AG pump on the market. Either a 3/4 HP Optiflo or Dynamo pump.

    Can you post a picture of your current pump (entire pump, not a close up) just to make sure? Also, can you tell me the service factor off the pump label for each pump?
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