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    Default Re: Also in Louisiana, COMPLETELY new to pools

    Hi James, and let me start off by saying thank you for your service!!

    It sounds like you inherited a real mess, but it doesn't sound hopeless, by any means, but it will take some patience. The good news is that we (I'm in Louisiana, too!) still have at least 2 months worth of swimming left, so you still have time to get it cleared up and swimmable before this season is over.

    The key to clearing the algae is to bring the chlorine up to shock level, and hold it there while the algae dies off. Do this with chlorine, not algaecides. Some algaecides, like Polyquat, are much better at preventing algae than clearing up a bloom. Other algaecides, like the cheaper ammonia-based ones, can actually make your problems worse. the pre-packaged "shocks" that they're selling these days are mostly a hodge-podge of chemicals because the chemical companies keep adding more "goop" to the formulas so they can be marketed as "new and improved". So....we recommend either plain, unscented, Wal-Mart generic bleach, or dichlor powder, which can be bought from either Sam's club(PoolBrand brand name) or online through Amazon (Kemtek). The dichlor powders from other places, including WalMart, contain a bunch of other goop that make it more expensive and less effective.

    So...to clear your pool, you're going to need to bring your chlorine to "shock" level. I'm assuming you have no stabilizer in the pool, because what you did have would have broken down with all that algae. So assuming a CYA of 0, you need to bring the chlorine to 12-15 ppm and hold it there, by testing for chlorine and adding whatever amount of chlorine necessary to get back up over the 12 ppm mark, as many times as possible throughout the day. The more consistent you are about maintaining that shock level, the faster the pool will clear. It will take several days, but just remember that it took awhile for that pool to get in the shape it's in, so the cure won't be overnight. It will take lots of chlorine, and lots of patience--but it will work. You will need to brush the pool at least once daily, right after a chlorine addition.

    In 25K gallons of water, each gallon of 6% bleach you add will raise your FC by 2.4 ppm--the large WalMart jugs of bleach are 1.42 gallons, and one of those will raise your FC by 3.4 ppm, so you can use those amounts as reference to know how much more needs to be added each time after the initial shock. To go from 0-15 ppm in your pool, it will require 6.2 gallons--6.5 gallons would be fine, and easier to measure

    You will need a test kit that will allow you to measure chlorine levels that high, which is why we recommend the K-2006 test kit linked in my sig (until your registration is completed, you'll have to log out to be able to follow the links, but that should only be temporary). If you have one of the OTO kits (uses red and yellow drops for pH and chlorine), you can force it to read higher by diluting your sample 1:1 with distilled water, testing from that sample, and multiplying your result x 2 (or dilute 1:2 and multiply result by 3). It loses a little accurace with each dilution, but it's a good ballpark number.

    We also need a little more info about your pool, filter, etc....please take a few seconds and fill this chart out for us so we can get the info we need to better advise you without wasting a lot of back-and-forth posts asking for info... ]Pool Chart Entry Form


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    Jan, you must've been recruiting this season. Seems like we have a lot of new people on the forum this year from Louisiana!

    Adding my welcome to you, James, as well!

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    By the way, instead of advising people to log out to follow the link in your sig, it was easier for me just to hit up amazon and search for the test kit. When I logged out I could no longer view the post, and I couldn't remember the exact nomenclature, so I logged back in and just opened amazon in a new tab and searched that way. For any other new folks that are looking for them, the price is going for $87 on the 2006C kits (more chemical, more expensive but cheaper by volume of all the chemicals) and the 2006A kits aren't even listed right now.

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    I'm working on some major changes in registration, that will affect. I checked your registration, thinking it would help you, but it won't since it depends on all the 'bits' of your registration matching.

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    Default Re: Also in Louisiana, COMPLETELY new to pools

    What else do I need to do in order to finalize the registration? I've got the forum registration, I filled out the Pool Chart Entry Form, is there another step that I missed somewhere?

    The logging out to use the link think was just a suggestion to have people search for the test kit by name, it was just easier for me to do than log out, find this thread in the forum, then use the link in the sig lines. Not complaining, just trying to make it easier for folks.

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    By the way, the reason we like people to follow our Amazon link to order a kit is that the forum gets a small commission on the sale which helps to keep this forum online and alive. If you order without first starting at our link, we don't.

    You're gonna love having that kit!

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    R6- I am a Louisiana newbie, too. I know one of the rules of this forum is NO SELLING but... I hope I don't get kicked off for saying that I am sold on this site! I have told all my pool owner friends about it. You have definitely come to the right place! I had a horrible problem with black algae this summer. Even had to send the kids to camp for a week so I could get the pool straight and keep them from driving me crazy not being able to swim! But thanks to Pool Forum (and a lot of work) my pool is beautiful! These people know their stuff! Welcome to the forum, and thanks for your service to our country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watermom View Post
    Jan, you must've been recruiting this season. Seems like we have a lot of new people on the forum this year from Louisiana!
    LOL, as many folks from Louisiana as there are with pools, I'm amazed at how few of us are here!

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    Janet thanks a ton for the very informative response!

    I had my wife go look at the filter the other day and she said it looked to her like the Hayward name we were seeing, but when I went and looked at it as I was filling out the Pool Chart Entry it read fairly clearly "Tagelus" to me, don't know if that makes a difference or not. The model number, serial number, and most of the other info on the tag are completely illegible. The best I could do was to guesstimate that the gallons per minute is rated at 20. As soon as I get done I'll log out and use your tag link to go find that test kit, and this afternoon I'll head up to the wal-mart down the road and start stocking up on bleach. I'm assuming I will need to avoid the non-chlorine bleach my wife uses on our laundry, lol! I'm sure she'd be upset if I were to dump all our bleach into the pool anyways.

    So once I get the test kit in and begin getting the chlorine up to shock level, how long will it need to maintain that level in order to kill off all the algae? Is it just a 24 hour thing, or will I have to find some way to test for living algae in the pool? Other than seeing the algae growing on the sides, how can I tell if the cloudiness in the pool is coming from dead floating or live floating algae?

    And my kids thank you for the delay of waiting on a test kit, lol! They're spending a few weeks with me this summer and have been pretty much living in that pool, they would be devastated if the last week before they return to their mother's house they had to stay out of the pool due to chlorine levels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R6 Guy View Post
    So once I get the test kit in and begin getting the chlorine up to shock level, how long will it need to maintain that level in order to kill off all the algae? Is it just a 24 hour thing, or will I have to find some way to test for living algae in the pool? Other than seeing the algae growing on the sides, how can I tell if the cloudiness in the pool is coming from dead floating or live floating algae?
    With an algae bloom that bad, it won't be a 24-hour thing, but if you are consistent about keeping your chlorine levels up, it shouldn't take more than a few days to at least get the algae killed off. The more consistent you are about keeping the levels up to shock, the faster this will go for you. You need to maintain that shock level until you can test for chlorine at night after the sun is off the pool and again in the morning before the sun hits the pool, and not have more than 1 ppm difference in the readings. At that point you no longer have living algae in the water, and it will then be a matter of how long it takes your filter to clear the dead algae from the pool. The more hours per day your pump/filter run, the faster it will go--but you'll need to keep an eye on your filter pressure and clean your filter each time the pressure gets to be 6-8 psi over your "clean" pressure.

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