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    Default Re: pH shot up with just two cups of borax!

    Two Cups was way too much so... try a half Cup at a time, let it dissolve / mix for a couple hours then retest.

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    Default Re: pH shot up with just two cups of borax!

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave View Post
    Two Cups was way too much so... try a half Cup at a time, let it dissolve / mix for a couple hours then retest.
    . . . but we know that, only because of the results . . .


    Sounds like a 1 cup dose might be it? The pH rise you experienced is not expected for a 3500 gallon pool with a TA=120.

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    Default Re: pH shot up with just two cups of borax!

    Thanks everyone; I gave it a 1/2 cup dose this morning and I'll check the results tonight. Pool chart has been completed with references to my user id and this thread.
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    Default Re: pH shot up with just two cups of borax!

    Quote Originally Posted by IGnatius T Foobar View Post
    Intex "guess strips" for TA;
    I think that may be why your pH shot up -- you have bogus TA measurements; most likely your ACTUAL TA is much lower.

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    Default Re: pH shot up with just two cups of borax!

    Thanks for all the help. We have the pH up to 7.4 now, with a daily dose of borax added with a dixie cup.

    Since we only have another 3 to 4 weeks of swimming season left here (partial shade and no heater) before we drain and store the pool, hopefully we'll now manage to keep the pH stable without any large changes. I've gotta say the SWG is a technological miracle -- it's kept our chlorine level sufficient and the pool water crystal clear all season without a lot of effort.
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