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    Yes, that is the company. It was sold to me by our pool builder which is a very large company and builds hundreds of pools each year. They are as upset as I am. All 3 of the systems they sold to customers are not working.

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    They are as upset as I am.
    Yes, but the question is, are they upset enough to give you your money back!

    As far as not working . . . nobody here on the Support Team, would have expected them to work!

    @Chem_Geek: thanks, and go-get-em!

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    If you look at the ECOsmarteŽ science summary it has a lot of the same B.S. such as keeping calcium in the "soft bicarbonate" form. The system seems very similar since is uses copper ionization to prevent algae and regular electrolysis of water that they claim is an oxidizer. However, it looks like they are using standard coated platinum electrodes and at lower salt levels that will produce mostly oxygen and hydrogen gasses. The other products they talk about, hydroxyl radicals, singlet oxygen, hydrogen peroxide, are produced in the tiniest amounts so as to be essentially useless. If one were serious about "oxygen-based" oxidation, then one should use boron-doped diamond electrodes to produce significant amounts of hydroxyl radicals as found in the adamant technologies OxineoŽ system.

    I will add E-clear to the list of companies making claims such as "kill bacteria" which is in violation of FIFRA fules since copper does not even kill fecal bacteria and kills other bacteria too slowly to pass EPA DIS/TSS-12.

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