use of liquid chlorine in AG vinyl lined pool

[Darkside]

got my K-1515A today!

so do i do the .2 or .5 test to read up to around 25/30ppm since thats what im shocking up to.

[Darkside]

went ahead and played with my new chemistry set.

using the K-1515 i tested a 10 ml sample. 2 spoons of R-0870 powder made the sample turn bright pink. 19 drops of R-0870 made the sample go from pink to clear. so, 19 x .5 = 9.5ppm FC right? i moved to step 5 and added 5 drops of R-0003 and sample didnt turn pink, so i didnt think i could move to step 6 since step 6 changes the sample from pink, back to clear. im confued with this part of the test.

i also did a dilution test (4.5 ml tap water and 4.5 ml pool water) with the K-2005 DPD and it also comes out to 10ppm FC.

PH is still 7.4 so, i added a couple of my "butter container scoops" that should get me back around 7.5-7.6 PH.

im going to add more chlorine tonight, and i assume ill keep adding the 2 big jugs right, also water is still cloudy as i brushed all the goop from the pool floor yesterday afternoon.

any ideas on whats up with the cloudy water? pump PSI is still 2 on low! cant wait to get the new filter! any ideas on why this cloudy water wont clear up?

thanks for any help folks!

[Watermom]

When you add the scoops of powder, if one scoop turns it pink, you don't need the second scoop. You are correct that it would be a FC reading of 9.5. If you add the drops of R-0003 and it stays clear, then you have no CC which is a good thing. So, you were right to stop at that point. Just use the 10 ml sample to save on your reagents.

Continue to keep the chlorine high. With that high CYA, 25ppm of chlorine is what you need. After you add the bleach this evening, wait an hour or so and test your chlorine. Then, tomorrow morning within two hours of sunrise, test the chlorine again. See how much chlorine you are losing overnight and report back. Continue to run your pump.

[Darkside]

even if 1 scoop produces a light link?

i seem to still be losing FC over night. last night i added chlorine, and took a measurment a little later and it was 20.5ppm. i then used the calculator and it said i needed 2 qrts 6 0z to get 25ppm, so i added that amount, checked later ( this was all late in the evening ) and i measured 19.5ppm. this morning i measured 15.5ppm, came home today and measured 10.5ppm. CC measured this afternoon is .5ppm

so a while ago i added 1 big jug and measured 19.5ppm. according to the calculator i need 2 qrts 3 cups to get 25ppm. ive added all this bleach in the last hour and a half or so, so ill test FC in just a bit.

i have been brushing the floor of the pool in the evening after adding my bleach.

the good news is that the filter came today. its a baleen filter, i actually thought i was ordering some other named filter but this is what i got. does anyone know if these are good filters? its seems to have a better filter medium vrs the orginal factory one. i noticed that when i installed it it took a litte effort to install it onto the tube at the bottom of the filter housing, i remember that the factory one used to fit nice and snug, but not any more... anyways while testing this afternoon after it was in there for about 2 hrs i seemed to already be able to see some improvement in clarity! i have the pump running on low.

[PoolDoc]

the good news is that the filter came today. its a baleen filter

"Baleen" is whale teeth, more are less. What do you mean?

[CarlD]

One thing that concerns me is the use of dilution with tap water. Steam-distilled water should be available in your local supermarket and chain drug store-- people use it in such pedestrian items like old-fashioned steam irons. Tap water can contain all sorts of stuff including chlorine. So always use steam-distilled water for your dilution testing.

[Darkside]

PoolDoc - its says baleen filter on the package. i found the manufacture but dont wanna post up a link. i was just wondering if anyone heard of this model filter and if they had any thoughts. as i said it looks to be of better materials than the factory one.


CarlD - i hear ya 100%, but the taylor kit even says use tap water for dilution test. i did an FC dilution test with the K2006 kit and i measured .5ppm difference from the K-1515, so it seems the tap water didnt mess the test up, but ill go ahead and pick up some for future dilution test on my next chlorine run.

a few things going on here. i brought FC up to 23.5 last night. i tested this morning and had just a 2.5ppm drop to 21ppm, and it rained quite a bit over night so that may have diluted my water some. im not loosing much FC over night. i also measured CC this morning and its .5ppm or less. the new filter has been in for almost 24 hrs. the water looks really really clean, but its still cloudy! i have no visable algae on the floor of the pool.

i was reading a response from PoolDoc to another poster and PoolDoc asked them to list eveything they added to their pool in the last couple of months, this made me nervous since i have added all kinds of junk at the recomendation of the pool store. so here is a list of things ive used in the pool in the last couple of months, maybe this will help diag why the water is still cloudy ( i hope )

i dont have any of this left aqua chem "shock xtra blue" the site does not list ingredients but here is a link ( i used a bunch of this over time). http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Chemi...roduct+Reviews

also used from walmart - aqua chem "natural water clarifier" the bottle does not list ingredients but here is a link. i only used thos once about a month ago per the instructions on the bottle. http://www.walmart.com/ip/Aqua-Chem-...ifier/19795894

also from walmart arm and hammer "clear balance" active ingredient sodium bicarbonate 86.60% clarifier and other ingredients 13.40%

leslies 3" jumbo tabs active ingredient trichloro-s-triazinetrione ive used this since we got the pool a couple years ago

i dont have any of this left and the site doesnt list the ingredients ( maybe i cant find them ) ive also used this a bunch since we got the pool http://www.lesliespool.com/Home/Pool...ock/12047.html

and finally, probably the mother of all screw ups recommended by the pool store guy a few weeks ago before i found this site.... "green to clean" this has been discussed here as i did some searching last night and found out that this is bad stuff.

last thing i should mention. i have a 5 gallon bucket attached under my stairs filled with golf ball sized river rocks to help weigh it down. i drilled a bunch of 1/2" holes in it to allow water to get in and around the rocks to prevent algae. i was using bags of sand at first but i was getting sand in the pool and the bags were trapping algae inside. could it be that the higher levels of chlorine are breaking down, or eating away at the rocks and causing cloudy water?

i feel like a knuckle head for never educating myself on the pool from day one! i have caused myself much aggrivation and money because of it! funny thing is the first two years were good, now all the crap chemicals have finally caught up with me.

the GOOD news is i have learned more about my pools water chemistry in the last week or two on here than i did in the last two years...