Cloudy.. impatient

[BigDave]

You have measureable CC so you need to maintain shock level - there's still a fight in there. Have you measured how much FC you lose overnight? Is your filter pressure climbing? Have you had to backwash it? (only when pressure rises 8-10 above clean)

Don't know why this year is different, maybe the warm winter. Lots of people are opening with huge chlorine demand this year, likely from bioconversion of CYA to ammonia.

(is bioconversion a word?)

[chuck9997]

thanks for the response BigDave.. from last night lost 3ppm FC. Filter pressure is ok.. Through the process.. I have backwashed a couple of times.

I will stay with it..
raised back to 15ppm this AM
using 6% bleach (182 ounce jugs).. each should raise about 6ppm. Its a 24ft round AG pool. (about 14000 gallons)

So.. am I shooting for 0 CC? Would a slight CC reading (1ppm this morning) cause the cloudiness?

The water is pretty clean.. nice. I have been in the pool (even at shock level) to sweep, etc. Just not clear. I put the little robot car vacuum in yesterday... and could just barely see it on the bottom of the pool.

[BigDave]

Yep, the goal is 0 CC. We say less than 0.5ppm CC because that is the resolution of the Taylor FAS-DPD test with a 10ml sample.

Are you adding bleach to get to 15ppm and then it drifts below? Perhaps you should dose enough so the FC is at least 15ppm the next time you test.

CC doesn't cause cloudiness, it's probably dead algae. Did you backwash because pressure went up 8-10? Dirty filters filter better, avoid backwashing before you have to.

[chuck9997]

yes adding to get up to 15ppm.. actually with what I added this AM.. should be at about 17ppm - 18ppm. I will do my best.. its hard to babysit the pool... gotta go to work. My wife just doesn't know how to test, etc. She will add bleach for me.. but.. not taking any readings. I will have her add half a 182 ounce jug about every 3 hrs.. and hope for the best. I might be able to sneak away from work around noon and check the pool.

So the CC shouldn't make it cloudy? Wow.. wish I could get it clear.

thanks again.

[BigDave]

The filter should clear the cloud. If the filter pressure is not rising, let us know.
We need to get past the chlorine demand before we discuss anything else.
Patience...

[CarlD]

Ok, let me jump in here. What I'd like to see is you run the FC/CC test with the 25ml sample just once, and see if your CC now tests at <=.2ppm. If it does, then the 10ml <=.5ppm is leading you on a merry chase. Quite frankly, with white cloudy water and a CC of <=.2 and high FC, I'd say don't worry about the CC anymore.

I didn't see if your pool is a sand-filtered, but if it is, tray adding a little DE through the skimmer, just enough to raise the pressure one pound. What you have may be too fine for sand to catch. You could also try a slime bag.

Another tool is the only algaecide we recommend: Polyquat 60%. This can also function as a clarifier since I think you've killed your algae.

FC may well be dropping if you have a lot of sunlight, even with CYA=30-40ppm. I'm not convinced you have any algae left to metabolize. I'm currently boosting my own CYA, aiming for the 60-70 range where I intend to keep it and run higher FC levels.

Carl

[BigDave]

CarlD, Chuck9997's pool lost 3ppm FC last night and had 1ppm CC this morning. I think he's still got live algae.

[sabres07]

The only comment I can add here is that you have to follow what they are saying to do TO THE LETTER. I was in your shoes about a week ago where my water was blue but cloudy. I was feeling impatient too but I stayed the course and followed the advice given here TO THE LETTER and I was rewarded with perfectly clear pool water. Keep at it!