Finally got some K2006C numbers.. please look

[Watermom]

I would just look for CYA that has cyanuric acid (or isocyanuric acid) only. What you bought also has baking soda in it which will also raise your alk. Your alk is a little low and could stand to come up some but I have no way to know how much. The pool shock that is 12.5% sodium hypochlorite is fine. That is the same thing as bleach but just at at a higher concentration, and that would be a good price for it.

[mastamoon]

I fat fingered that price if shock.. its actually 5.99. So in reality I would be getting .5% free over my 3 dollar gallons of bleach.

My alk was a bit low so ill add 2 lbs and see what happens. Stupid pool store has a no chemicals return policy.

[PoolDoc]

One if which describes what the cya I got contains. Label says cya and sodium bicarbonate but has no percentages. Is that OK?

If you mean, will it hurt your pool? Probably not. If you mean, should you buy it in the future? No, that's how pool companies play games to sell less for more. Is this the Namco product?

12.5% sodium hypochlorite gallons for 2.99, which is the same price I get 6% bleach for. Any reason to just not buy the liquid shock?

It may be a good deal. There are two problems. First, if it's not fresh, and not kept cool, it breaks down VERY rapidly at summer time temperatures, releasing oxygen gas. Second, household bleach is usually filtered for iron, but not all industrial bleach is. You can test both: add household bleach one evening, and see how much FC increases after 1 hour. Repeat with the industrial bleach. If it increases 2x as much (or is close) it's a good deal. Then, take the used household bleach, and put about a quart of industrial bleach in it. (Watch the spills: the 15% bleach I used to work with makes cotton 'evaporate'!!) Put the jug in the hottest place you can find around the hose, preferably also exposed to sunlight. Leave the lid a little loose. Check it after two weeks or so. If there's a bunch of iron sediment in the bottom, you may want to think twice.

[PoolDoc]

Stupid pool store has a no chemicals return policy.

Actually, that's not unreasonable on bleach, or on chemicals that are not sealed.

And , $6/gal for 12% bleach is not a deal.

[mastamoon]

Yes same as I linked to before. I won't buy again. Any idea how much of this mix I will need to get to 40ish cya. I would guess the whole thing eventually lol.

Too much work to test that shock.. ill stick with the Walmart or target bleach.

[mastamoon]

I'm going to finally call my pool clear!

I overshot my borax addition though.. pH is between 7.8 and 8.0. My pool tends to loose pH so I'm going to let it sit and see what happens.

Again, any idea what dosage I should use for that Stabilizer and Conditioner? Start with a pound or 2? Directions say to mix into bucket full of pool water and dump around the pool. Should I follow that or do the sock method recommended here?

EDIT by Watermom to merge 2 posts in the mod queue:

Actually reading on line that 7.8 to 8.0 makes chlorine ineffective.. maybe ill add some water tonight and put in a lil bit of pH Decrease.

Never ends.

[Watermom]

Don't add the pH decreaser. If your pH tends to drop on its own, let it.

I have no idea how much of the stabilizer mix to tell you to add. Start with a couple of lbs. I guess. And, yes, do the sock method instead of broadcasting directly into the pool.

[PoolDoc]

Mastamoon, you are over-controlling your pool. It's a pool; not a set of numbers. The numbers will NORMALLY vary some over time and trying to FIX this normal variation just wastes money and effort.

Let me suggest a few guidelines for you:
1. There are just 4 'fix-it-now' issues in your pool: low chlorine; pH below 6.8 or above 8.2, growing algae.
2. For EVERYTHING else, do NOT change your routine until you have AT LEAST 2 readings on succeeding days show a SUSTAINED out of norm condition.
3. To reiterate: do NOT adjust and do NOT report here, until you have TWO out of range test, NOT from the same day.

[mastamoon]

Guess I use this forum like other forums.. and apparently that's not right lol

Ah well.. thanks for the help anyway.

[PoolDoc]

I don't know exactly what you mean -- but if you post multiple times per day on other forums, then yes, we discourage that here, for two reasons:

First, we don't have time to deal with folks that way, especially not during the period from May 15 to June 15. There are a limited number of people -- maybe 15 -- qualified to give good answers to multiple types of pool questions. It's not like you can go read a book, or a pool manual, and then be qualified to help people with BBB method chemistry.

Second, almost without exception, multi-posting per day means over-managing and fretting over a pool . . . and this does NOT help the pool recover faster. That's why we so often prescribe P.O.P. -- Pool Owner Patience. People get frustrated, get in a hurry, and mess up: pool stores LOVE it. Adequate supplies of P.O.P. would be almost as damaging to pool store sales, as widespread understanding of the BBB method.