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    On my heater the power comes in and the first thing it does is runs through a transformer to 24v or 28v to control lines. There was a resetable breaker right at that input that tripped on mine. Oddly the power comes in on the left side, but all the controls are on the upper right side of the heater.

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    that sounds like a pretty good lead. wish it wasn't dark out! i'll check it out first thing in the AM. i'll report back.

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    ugh... one of the problems is that i'm not real smart. there's no breaker and no connections to check because it's a millivolt heater: there IS no electrical connection! it runs off a small charge generated by the pilot light. or, in this case, DOESN'T run.

    i'm definitely getting charge from the generator: i measure almost a full volt from the wires coming from the generator, and i read on a different site that somewhere in the neighborhood of .5 volt is needed to fire it. i'm going to try and jump all the other switches and such to see if that fires it...

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    Hey Brock,

    I have a Raypak 2100 with the digital display.

    The digital dispay on my heater in not working but I'm getting power to the unit.
    I know there's a small transformer by the on switch. I noticed you mentioned to docsobek that there was a small breaker on yours.

    What is your brand heater? Where exactly was the breaker?

    Thanks

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    I have the Purex/Triton MiniMax 200,000. The power enters on the left middle and crosses over to the far upper right side. My controls are in the middle top.

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    You said you have a Minimax heater. I also have a Minimax (propane) heater. There is no incoming power on this type of heater. The way it works (at least my Jandy/Laars unit) is the gas pilot stays lit all the time. The pilot heats up a device that creates the small voltage which is needed to allow the gas valve to open. If the pilot light ever goes out or the voltage generator doesn't work the large gas valve will never open and no heat. In addition to the voltage generator safety device you need continuity through the water pressure switch, a fusible link, high temp cutout switch, the on/off switch, and the adjustable thermostat. If you have the type heater I am describing you can test the entire circuit with a Volt-Ohm meter.
    Can you provide the specific make and model of the heater?

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    Sure, it is the Purex/Triton MiniMax Plus 200,000 milivolt high efficiency electronic start. When heat is called for you can hear a rapid clicking, it makes a spark to ignite the gas. I would take a pic for you but my wife has the camera. I know they made all sort of models, some powered vent, some draft vent, some electronic ignition, some standing pilot lights, some with power and some without. Although I am not sure this really helps figure out this problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock
    I have the Purex/Triton MiniMax 200,000. The power enters on the left middle and crosses over to the far upper right side. My controls are in the middle top.
    Thanks. I'm going to start by checking for a breaker, then I'll change the transformer. The transformer is 40.00 vs 400 for the board.

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    If you can check the output of the transformer first. I would bet somewhere there is a fuse on the input and even likely the output side of the transformer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brock
    If you can check the output of the transformer first. I would bet somewhere there is a fuse on the input and even likely the output side of the transformer.
    Will do. Thanks for the advise.

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