+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 8 of 8

Thread: How can I avoid a pH crash?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Posts
    870

    Default How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Due to unavoidable circumstances my pool will be unattended for the next 3 weeks.

    I've loaded the inline chlorinator with pucks and have adjusted the setting to 1/4. From past experience during the initial start-up weeks when the water is similarly cool, this will maintain FC at between 5 and 7 ppm. The pump is on a timer and will run 6 hours during the night. The pool will be covered with a solar cover.

    Current readings are: FC=5, CC=0, pH=7.5, TA=60, CYA=30.

    The TA of 60 is the natural state of my fill water. I use LC during the season and pH has stayed steady at 7.5 all summer.

    I'm worried that the continued use of trichlor will crash the pH. This hasn't happened in the past but I've always been there to keep an eye on things. Murphy's Law pretty much assures that problems will arise.

    My plan is to raise pH to 7.8 using borax and raise TA to 80 with baking soda. That would allow the pH to drift down over time and would add some extra buffering capability.

    Is that a reasonable approach or is there a better one?
    Oval 12.5K gal AGP; Hayward 19" sand filter; Pentair Dyn 1 HP 2sp pump on timer
    [URL="http://www.ellerbach.com/Pool/"]My Pool Pages[/URL]

  2. #2
    chem geek is offline PF Supporter Whibble Konker chem geek 4 stars chem geek 4 stars chem geek 4 stars chem geek 4 stars
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    California
    Age
    65
    Posts
    2,226

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    If your typical daily chlorine demand is 2 ppm FC per day, then in 12,000 gallons that would be about 9 3" 8-ounce Trichlor pucks/tabs. Starting out at 7.8 pH and 80 ppm TA you would end up at the same TA but with CYA higher by 25 ppm (adjusted TA or carbonate alkalinity would be lower by 10 ppm) and the pH would be no lower than 7.0 and with carbon dioxide outgassing will probably be more like 7.2 so you should be OK.
    Last edited by chem geek; 09-04-2011 at 02:07 PM.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Posts
    870

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Thank you very much for the projections. I expect the FC loss to be less than 2 ppm/day since there's not going to be a bather load and I'll have the solar cover on. I should be okay with the seven 3" pucks the chlorinator holds.

    'Preciate your help!
    Oval 12.5K gal AGP; Hayward 19" sand filter; Pentair Dyn 1 HP 2sp pump on timer
    [URL="http://www.ellerbach.com/Pool/"]My Pool Pages[/URL]

  4. #4
    waterbear's Avatar
    waterbear is offline Lifetime Member Sniggle Mechanic waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    St. Augustine, Fl
    Age
    70
    Posts
    3,743

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Just to be safe I would bump up the TA a bit higher. Murphy's Law and all that! I would shoot for 100 ppm. You can always lower it when you return if you find that your pH is rising too fast.
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Lehigh Valley, PA
    Posts
    870

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Well %$#@!

    Murphy's Law kicked in. The day before we're to leave for Canada to help our very elderly parents the pump died. During its run time last night it got so very loud that we had to turn it off. Checked just now: skimmer clean, pump basket clean, pressure readings normal at low and high speeds, water coming out of the return as always. So I have normal inflow and outflow, no air leaks apparent. but the pump makes a hellishly loud noise.

    There's no way we have time to disassemble it and check it out.

    I'm going to pour in enough bleach to get to 20 ppm FC and mix it in with the net. Then I'll put the solar cover on and drive away. Whatever happens, happens. I know how to clear up a green pool.

    But still: %$#@!

    Pardon my language.
    Oval 12.5K gal AGP; Hayward 19" sand filter; Pentair Dyn 1 HP 2sp pump on timer
    [URL="http://www.ellerbach.com/Pool/"]My Pool Pages[/URL]

  6. #6
    waterbear's Avatar
    waterbear is offline Lifetime Member Sniggle Mechanic waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars waterbear 4 stars
    Join Date
    Nov 2004
    Location
    St. Augustine, Fl
    Age
    70
    Posts
    3,743

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Leave it to Murphy! Never seems to fail, does it?
    Retired pool store and commercial pool maintenance guy.

  7. #7
    BigDave's Avatar
    BigDave is offline Lifetime Member Whizbang Spinner BigDave 3 stars BigDave 3 stars BigDave 3 stars
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    New Jersey
    Posts
    1,932

    Default Re: How can I avoid a pH crash?

    Pull the pump. Bring your tools. Let someone else drive. Take it apart in your lap on the way. Get parts in Canadia(if you can). Put it back together on your way home(someone else driving). It's all ready when you return. Plenty of time. ;-)

    Warning: Do not attempt to rebuild your pump while driving.
    12'x24' oval 7.7K gal AG vinyl pool; ; Hayward S270T sand filter; Hayward EcoStar SP3400VSP pump; hrs; K-2006; PF:16

  8. #8
    Watermom's Avatar
    Watermom is offline SuperMod Emeritus Quark Inspector Watermom 4 stars Watermom 4 stars Watermom 4 stars Watermom 4 stars Watermom 4 stars Watermom 4 stars
    Join Date
    Dec 1969
    Location
    Charleston, WV
    Posts
    9,345

+ Reply to Thread

Similar Threads

  1. Starting up and trying to avoid the pool stores
    By Pool8 in forum Pool Startup, Shutdown, & Winter Operation
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 06-12-2012, 09:09 AM
  2. Zodiac-Clearwater- Avoid them!
    By vicar8 in forum Salt Generators (SWCG) & other Chlorine Feeders
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 03-28-2011, 08:30 PM
  3. Please help me avoid last year's mistakes
    By blessedbeingmom in forum Using Chlorine and Chlorinating Chemicals
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 03-25-2011, 05:10 PM
  4. Why would my TA crash?
    By TwistyKat in forum Dealing with Alkalinity and Calcium
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 05-03-2007, 01:48 PM
  5. New vinyl liner, must avoid calcium
    By lovedisney in forum Using Chlorine and Chlorinating Chemicals
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 06-19-2006, 12:16 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts