Help - brown stinky dark murky pool

[waterbear]

thank you for making me feel even more clueless.

It was shock, as the bag name I wrote says. I needed to shock as directed by all other posters, and it worked, as evidenced by my overnight change from brown to aquamarine, a more hospitable color.

From the standpoint of not knowing what it was, I mean that it had a chemical formula name longer than supercalafragilisticexpyalidocious.

could you really make a brown mudbog pool worse? If so, don't tell me how.

It could possibly make it worse. It is never a good idea to put anything into your pool if you don't really know what it is. Some things that seem like they might be the right thing could be disasterous if used improperly or at the wrong time...and some products can cause more and bigger problems then the problem they are supposed to solve! I tried to look up the MSDS for it on the net to see what was in it but couldn't find it. If you would post the indgredient list it would be helpful. From what I was able to read about it I suspect it was a monopersulfate based shock with a flocculant in it.
As far as your filter pressure goes, I would suggest backwashing it and adding a bit more DE powder (check the manual for how much your make and model takes...if you don't have the manual post the make and model and ask for help.)

People on here are really trying to help you but you are not really listening to them. It is your choice whether you want to follow their advice or not but you have a lot to gain (and will learn a lot in the process) if you do.
Just take baby steps for now as you learn about how to care for your pool and soon you will see all the pieces fit together nicely. Paitience is a key word with pool care. Quick fixes don't always work but approaching problems methodically with tried and true methods (that sometimes take a bit of time and effort) do!

[PoolDoc]

Your reluctance to use the bleach calc implied to me you wouldn't be willing to do the work this would take. Read everything you can on this forum to start.

Uh-h, Dave "implied to me" pretty much equals 'assumed'.

I 'assume' you are familiar with the little pun on ASS-U-ME?

I have done it. I'm pretty sure all the moderators have done it. And, now, you've done it, too.

Please be careful; newbies are just that, and I have a strict 'be nice to newbies' rule here.

It doesn't make any difference how 'educated' someone is in other areas; when it's new to you, it confusing no matter what your background is. In years past, 'newbies' here have included well, actual "rocket scientists" from JPL. And, they asked the same (well, no . . . ALMOST the same) questions as everyone else.

Granted, sometimes newbies need to be told to "go do what I told you to do, and don't come back till you've done it". But . . .

RULE #1: Never, EVER say it that way!
RULE #2: PM me or one of the moderators first.
RULE #3: Watch your 'tone' (I know, 'tone' is a property of spoken, not written language, but I assume you know what I mean.)
RULE #4: Never rebuke a newbie the first time it's deserved; always wait until the second time. (If it's a really egregious faux pas or rules violation, please "Alert" me).
RULE #5: If you think you have to 'rebuke' someone, see RULE #2 first.

Oh, yeah.

RULE #6: Before you ass-u-me that someone needs a good ol' slap on the head, RE-read their post CAREFULLY. Otherwise, you might act too quickly, and end up being the 'equine' of the non-horsey type. (Been there, done that, got the egg-on-the-face to show for it!)

Thanks,

Dave

[KurtV]

thank you for making me feel even more clueless.

It was shock, as the bag name I wrote says. I needed to shock as directed by all other posters, and it worked, as evidenced by my overnight change from brown to aquamarine, a more hospitable color.

Paiardocs, I was trying to help you; I certainly wasn't trying to offend you or make you feel clueless.

There are many kinds of "shock" and some of them, as Waterbear has explained, could make your situation worse. I'm glad it didn't (yet) in your particular case.

[CarlD]

Pairadocs,
Let me put my two cents in.
"Shock". This an action, not an additive. You couldn't know that as a newbie, but pool chem companies write that on labels so that lots and lots of pool owners think it's a thing, not an action. You are not alone in this. We are battling their efforts to keep you in a constant state of terror if you don't regularly add lots of exotic-sounding and expensive chemicals.

The bottom line is you don't need most of them, even when you are battling a horrific algae bloom that's turned your pool into a toxic science experiment.

To shock a pool (I don't really like the term at all) is simply to raise your sanitation well above normal maintenance levels to kill anything and everthing that could be growing. There's lots of things you can add to to this, good, bad, and terrible. That's why we suggest you always check what they are calling "shock" before you add it.

Another trick pool chem companies do is simply package a pre-measured dose of a chemical into a bag and call it "shock". Most often, it's nothing more than an expensive way to buy di-chlor or cal-hypo powder that you can buy in bulk.

Here is what I've seen called shock--other folks feel free to chime in!
Di-chlor shock. Same as Di-chlor in a bucket. Adds chlorine nicely but also adds CYA and lowers pH. However, it's not as drastic to CYA or pH as Tri-chlor pucks. Unfortunately, you may find some coming marked "double acting", meaning they are loaded with copper. Don't use this, ever.

Cal-Hypo shock. This is cal-hypo powder. Sometimes it's 68% chlorine--the good stuff at better pool stores, or it's 48% chlorine--the cheap garbage that HTH is pushing on the discount houses. Adds calcium AND can temporarily make your water milky. If your calcium level is elevated, it can cause scaling or milk-colored pool water.

Liquid Shock: USUALLY, this is just liquid chlorine--ie, bleach. Sometimes it's 6%--which is just Ultra bleach. Sometimes it's 12 or 12.5% listed, but has probably deteriorated to 10% or less unless it's only been off the truck a day or two. OCCASIONALLY it is more economical to use this instead of bleach (then I buy it). Usually, it's not.

Sometimes Liquid Shock is NOT chlorine--using this in a chlorine pool can be SERIOUSLY problematic. I believe this is used only in bromine or bacquacil pools. Never, EVER add Liquid Shock if it isn't Sodium Hypochlorite--bleach--and nothing else.

Lithium Chloride. This is a new non-calcium, non-stabilized chlorine. It's absurdly expensive, is less than 50% active chlorine, and, is probably adding lithium to your water--a metal. I have NO idea the effect lithium metals have on pool water, but generally, only metals like calcium and sodium are OK. (we forget that Ca and Na are metals because we never see them that way--but they are greyish metals).

I use bleach to shock. Occasionally, I'll use the 12% liquid chlorine/bleach. Even more occasionally (like when I have no CYA and need some) I'll use di-chlor powder.

So, please, before you add something, if you don't know what is in it, ask us first, and we'll be happy to say "Sure, go ahead" or "NO! STOP! Don't add that $#!$!"