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    Al, I'll stand by what I've said. I have never glued in a gasket nor o-ring: number of problems caused by no glue = 0. The channels are deep enough (at least on Hayward products) to prevent the movement you fear. As I see it, the problems result from dry-rot or broken channels, and lubing the gasket prevents the dry-rot. It seems to me that most trouble arises from the gasket sitting dry over the winter (water is a wonderful lubricent), if the multiport handle isn't in an 'in-between' a/k/a/ winterize position, the bonding you're talking about can occur and shred the gasket with the first change of position.
    There is no reason to make this one of the 'great all-time debates' - if anyone is uncomfortable with what I've suggested, by all means secure the gasket, though I'd suggest using silicone caulk (sparingly applied) over glue - and, of course, lube it well.
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    Default Re: Spider Gasket - First Obsticle

    I'm with Waste, at least with a Hayward.

    I just changed my spider gasket last week. It was 9 years old and I'm sure it hadn't been glued in. On the new gasket I just thoroughly worked it down into the channel. It was a nice fit on my Hayward filter, I don't know about other models.

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    Default Re: Spider Gasket - First Obsticle

    One more swipe at this, then I'll deny ever mentioning it.

    I'm a former auto tech and shop owner and I'm against "jury-rigging" and "backyard mechanics."

    However, there are times that you either "rig" or "toss" a part and this may be one of those times. No harm trying if you're not an airline mechanic.

    If you have to replace a complex o-ring gasket and don't have a replacement, here's a workaround..........get the closest o-ring you can find and if it's not TOO short, use GASKACINCH brandname to hold the gasket into place while you put it together.

    If the o-ring is just too small, buy 2 of them, then CAREFULLY cut the rubber at an EXACT square angle, put in the extra piece needed, then CRAZY GLUE the pieces together. Then use GASKACINCH to "glue" the gasket into the pump gasket groove and use extra GASKACINCH at the "joined" areas of the o-ring.

    Now, I've used this method a number of times and it's even worked (for a while) on a small dirt bike motor.

    The reason that I'm suggesting it here, is that there's no heat to speak of and using a bead of silicon to glue it, just won't work imo.

    The reason I'm suggesting gaskacinch and not silicon sealer is that gaskacinch actually acts like rubber cement. You coat both sides, let them dry for a bit, then put it together and it's "glued" in place, making assembly dead easy.

    Hope that helps

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    Default Re: Spider Gasket - First Obsticle

    GASKACINCH sounds like neat stuff to keep around. I'll look into it.
    Thanks.
    Al

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