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    Wink Hiya! First time pool owner

    I guess being a newbie, I'll start with my background info. I purchased an above ground Intex Easy Set pool (15'x42", about 3200 gal) earlier this season and have mostly been enjoying it. I also installed the Klor-in inline chlorine feeder but unfortunately it does not seem to be functioning properly. When I first set up the pool, I took a water sample into our local Leslie's Pool for a test. He told me to shock the pool, to add alkalinity up, and to add hardener and conditioner (CYA). I added those items in the order that the told me to, different days, etc. I took a sample in again a few days later and they told me the chlorine was so high they couldn't accurately read the levels of anything else because it was bleaching out. At that point all I had done was shock the pool, but mostly left the cover on while not in use. So I removed the cover to let some of the chlorine burn off. The third time I guess they could figure it out and my CYA seemed to be good but they said alkalinity was still low. I continued trying to increase that and got my pH a little higher too, according to them. I put chlorine tablets into the in-line feeder, but a week or two later the feeder had no water in it and the tablets were hardly dissolved. I tried opening the valve more, but it didn't seem to make a difference. I ended up taking a sample to a different pool store because I the pH was still too low based on what my ePool monitor was telling me (6.8), yet Leslie's was telling me it was 7.2. The new store's test said 6.8, so I increased the pH some more and was happy with the reading on the ePool after that.

    I read that you should shock the pool once a week, so I started doing that. We went out of town last week for three nights and I thought the shock beforehand would keep it good, and I thought the chlorine feeder was working to keep sanitizer at a good level. Unfortunately it was hot and sunny and the shock burned off fast and the chlorine dropped. Then we had a couple of good thunderstorms with lots of rain. By the time we got home the pool water was cloudy. I dumped some more shock in, about 1/2 lb. The next day I noticed some green slimy stuff growing around the edges. I dumped the other 1/2 lb of shock in that I had, and then later 16 oz of bleach. The pH was reading right around 7.2 so I tried to raise that a bit too by adding some baking soda and then alkalinity up. It raised to 7.5. A couple days later, after reading about fighting algae, I knew I needed to get some more shock and from what I read I needed to double shock the pool to get rid of it (along with lots of vacuuming, pump running, etc.) So I did that, with the second shock treatment last night before bed. This morning the pH on the ePool is reading 7.9 and it said I needed to add muriatic acid. I decided to let it stabilize a little more and by the time I got home this evening it was reading 7.6 so I guess I'm okay there now.

    So anyways, am I on the right track with everything? Is it true the shock/chlorine works better at the higher end of the acceptable pH range than the lower end? I've just received the replacement inline chlorine feeder and will likely put it on tomorrow, hopefully with better luck. Does anyone actually use these with reasonable success?

    Thanks for the wealth of info I've seen on here so far. Off to do some forum searching and reading now.

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    Default Re: Hiya! First time pool owner

    Bump for anyone?

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    Sorry I somehow missed this yesterday. Do you have test kit? We need a complete set of water testing results? One of the readings we need is CYA. What is the ingredient of the shock you are using?

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    I'll have to take a sample in later today then for complete test. I shocked with 52% calcium hypochlorite.

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    It is ok to use cal-hypo for awhile but it does cause the calcium hardness reading to increase. If it gets too high, it can cause cloudy water issues.

    You really need to get a kit so you don't have to rely on the pool store for testing. The one we recommend is the Taylor K-2006 or 2006C (same kit, larger bottle of some reagents). If you buy it through the Amazon link in my signature, the Pool Forum makes a little money on the sale which helps us keep this form online. Only buy if the seller is Amato Industries, however. Some other sellers are substituting the K-2005 which you do NOT want. If Amato isn't listed, wait a day or two and try again. They seem to restock pretty quickly when they sell out.

    At the very least, pick up the 6-way test kit at Walmart.

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    The inline chlorinators can be used with reasonable success, IF you understand what the trichlor is doing to your water. First of all, it's lowering your pH. If you have high pH fill water, that's fine, but if your fill water is lower in pH, you might find yourself fighting that battle as long as you use the trichlor. Second, it's raising your CYA. YOu say you put CYA (same thing as conditioner) in it, but you never gave us a level....and you need to keep in mind that as your CYA level rises, so must your minimum chlorine level (see the Best Guess Chlorine Chart linked in Watermom's sig for more info on that). So..you can use it until you get tired of fighting the pH, or until your CYA gets to around 40 ppm or so, then you'll need to stop using it. Many people that do successfully use them are the ones that turn the flow rate very low, and supplement their chlorine levels with bleach. Inline chlorinators get people into trouble pretty quickly sometimes; that's why you need to understand what it does to your water, then taylor your use of it to your pool's needs.

    Warning: if you're using a trichlor feeder, do NOT add cal-hypo directly into the skimmer. YOu can pre-dissolve it into a bucket and then pour it slowly into the pool if you want to, but you do not want cal-hypo to come into direct contact with trichlor, EVER.

    But as WAtermom requested, please get a drop-based kit, or as a last resort go to a pool store that uses drop-based testing, and get your water tested and post your results here and we can help you from there. DO NOT let them sell you phosphate remover, algaecide, calcium to add to the water, or any other chemicals. Just smile and tell them you already have them at home.

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