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    Default Re: SWG Operation - Lessons Learned

    Quote Originally Posted by PatL34
    You might have had some scale on the salt sensor which is now clearing up.
    You should be able to get the salt water test kit easily. The chemical used is silver nitrate. This reacts with potassium dichromate indicator to give the red color of potassium nitrate.

    The reason they don't have too many in stock, is that the test kit lasts a LOT longer than the test strips at about a third the price, about $8.00.
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    Hi Pat,

    It looks like you've created a thread worth making a 'sticky', but it's a bit cluttered with followup OT items. If you would, post a copy again, and then PM me when you have done. I'll add a 'threatening' follow-on , asking people who know (including Sean & Mark) to offer corrections. Once corrected (something I can't do, never having had a SWG), I'll 'sticky' it.

    Oh, and about the K-1766 -- were you really able to get one for $8? It currently lists for $20.75, and I thought I was offering a real deal on the PS234S. But, if you can get one for $8, it's not a deal. AgNO3 prices *are* way up, so it's possible that the older price was much lower -- I haven't looked through old Taylor price lists. And, a very quick 'Google' for K-1766 showed prices between $24 and $35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoolDoc
    Hi Pat,

    It looks like you've created a thread worth making a 'sticky', but it's a bit cluttered with followup OT items. If you would, post a copy again, and then PM me when you have done. I'll add a 'threatening' follow-on , asking people who know (including Sean & Mark) to offer corrections. Once corrected (something I can't do, never having had a SWG), I'll 'sticky' it.

    Oh, and about the K-1766 -- were you really able to get one for $8? It currently lists for $20.75, and I thought I was offering a real deal on the PS234S. But, if you can get one for $8, it's not a deal. AgNO3 prices *are* way up, so it's possible that the older price was much lower -- I haven't looked through old Taylor price lists. And, a very quick 'Google' for K-1766 showed prices between $24 and $35.

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    Ben,

    Thanks for your support. I will "clean it up" so to speak and resubmit it. I was trying to make it as generic as possible.

    Regarding the K-1766 testkit, it is the test strips that I meant were at $8. My apologies for the confusion, and I will edit that post to make it clearer. My kit cost $23 over a year ago.

    Thanks again.

    Pat

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    Just trying to keep this at the top so we can have a sticky. Has this already been saved as a sticky somewhere? I can't find it.
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    So Pat, does this mean I need to maintain pH a LITTLE low (7.4 maybe) to make the SWC more effective? I am looking for a way to cut down how long the SWC generates (it's at 75% now). It sounds like a lower pH might help. I maintain 7.8 now.
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    Brad,

    7.8 pH is generally considered to be the high end where chlorine production by the cell is minimal. 7.4 would be ideal, and will help to reduce the loading on the cell, and the %age setting.

    Depending on your system, if you can keep a fairly steady pH with muriatic acid, and the TA at 100 - 120 ppm, you should have more time for swimming.

    Pat

    PS. It is not yet a sticky and am waiting to hear from Ben regarding this.
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    Very helpful thread. I have an Aquarite SWCG and I have a PH of 7.4 and TA of 120 which I am able to maintain pretty consistently without adding acid. However I am reading alot in this thread about adding acid to maintain PH. Is this because most of these pools are plaster and not vinyl? I have an inground 12,000 gallon vinyl pool. Filter runs 12hrs a day and SWCG at 20%.

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    I came across this anomaly in another thread in this forum I think and have not yet been able to find a reason for the steady pH in vinyl pools.

    If you could post a complete analysis, and mention the chemicals you add on a regular basis, it might help to get a better insight. Also what you do when there is an upset through bather load, weather conditions, etc.

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    Default Re: SWG Operation - Lessons Learned

    Have added some extra comments regarding bleach cost vs. SWCG cost in the "Pro" section of the original post (#1).

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