LOL! No they are not Amish, or anything like that. I guess they just haven't found a use for it. Okay, thanks for you help, I just got a call from him, and I said I didn't want to be pushy, if he wasn't ready to make the big change, thats fine, I just wanted to help them. They have done so much for us! Anyhow,he is going to continue doing what he is doing for now, So Thanks so much for help! I need to focus on my own beautiful hole in the ground, and keep that sparkling, LOL!