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    Default Re: Pool is clear finally, Now the liner is stained.

    Well Ben, again I thank you.

    What appeals to me is #2 and #3. #1 forget it.

    #2. How do I do the filter out approach? Is that the pucks in the skimmer? So add a puck to the skimmer and make sure the pump is running when its in there. OK. I could do that is ==f it works.

    #3. That sounds like a good product. Is it new? But how many would you need to use? And I did not catch the price on the site, but I will look again.

    And what is the material that will absorb metals? I am sure we can make this ourselfs????? I will try to research it.

    Possibly would it be some type of water softner resin in a bag?

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    I have ordered Culator, and will let you know how it works, although I do not have any staining in my pool at the moment (yeah). Dealing with metals is a pain, but it can be done. I really hate stains - ask my husband, he thinks I am obsessed, maybe I am, but I am determined to keep my pool stain free, just for the stubbornness in me!
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    OK just alittle follow up.

    Pool is nice and clear. Got the new chlorine kit so I can test for CC better. Also more cynaric acid.

    FC 4
    CC .5 ( well the solution barely turned pink with 5 drops R3. One drop R 871 to turn clear. testing from 10 ml mark)
    PH 7.2 ( Never changes. )
    Alk 90
    CH 17.1 ( Actually my test is for total hardness. Should I have calcium on a vinyl liner? I fill from a softner and it removes all that.
    CYA 30

    The pink stuff worked as Ben said. The liner is clean of the stains. It also cleaned the pump basket. It looks new. I never knew it was stained. The return is white also...LOL

    Now I am wondering if and when to shock if needed. Because of $$ I am not buying any more metal stuff unless I have to. I think my staining was caused by over chloronating. I have the same well water as before but because of my issue this yr, I probably raised my chlorine to some ridiculous amount. 25-30ppm???

    Now with the powder test I can shock properly and keep the correct levels.

    Not sure if the pool has that depth it used to have. You know, water so clear you can read the date on a quarter at the bottom... Well not really.. Just trying to explain what I mean.

    Anyway I am going to find info on when to shock. I think I read people do it once a week regardless, but also read only when CC gets to a 1.

    OK I will take pics tomorrow. Its going to be 90F
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    You don't ever need to shock unless you are fighting something in the water. You will know if the water turns cloudy, or if you have any combined chlorine. Sounds like your chemical numbers are right in order. If you make sure that you don't let the chlorine get low enough for anything to start up in your water you should not have to shock. As for using a metal sequestering agent, if you see any stains start to form you can put some in. Staining means the sequestering agent is too low to keep the metals in suspension, so you need to add more. I don't use a maintenance dose, I just add when I see some discoloration starting on my pool. Let us know if you have any other questions, Happy swimming!
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    Default Re: Pool is clear finally, Now the liner is stained.

    Really glad you hear things are FINALLY all cleared up. Congrats! Now it is time to enjoy the pool!

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    OK, Me again.

    Alright here is what I got. The pool is swimable but not happy with the slight cloud. Like I said previously. The depth is not there. Tonight with the pool light it looks alittle yellow? Faint green hue???

    Anyway again thanks to all for getting me this far. I would like to fine tune the pool to get it clear. just throw me in the right direction.

    Tonights readings
    FC 4
    CC 0
    PH 7.2
    Alk 90
    THardness 17.1
    CYA 30
    TDS 880

    Summary: My pool was swamp green and cloudy for three weeks. Per Ben I kept the shock up and filtered for 48 hrs. Cleared up, but I guess is still off. My 10 yr old even says it seems cloudy. From shocking I guess I stained the liner. Ben suggested Jacks magic pick stuff, which took all the stains out. They are still gone.

    The vitamin C test worked so I assumed it was IRON???

    My fill water is treated, 20 micron filter, calcite filter, softner. My fill water tests at

    FC 0
    PH 7.2
    Alk 160
    Total hardness 0
    TDS 200 ( Raw well water TDS is 80 )

    What do I need to do? I run the pump 16 hours on low. I run for a few hours on high every other day to get two pool turnovers.

    So all is good except for this yellowish hue. Possibly slight green hue. Light cloudy, no depth to the water.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: Pool is clear finally, Now the liner is stained.

    Have you tried adding a little DE to your sand filter? Backwash first. Start with a bout 1/4 cup, wait 30 and see if your pressure went up. The object is to determine how much DE is needed to make your pressure gauge go up 1 psi. Then just run your filter 24/7. When the PSI goes up five or six pounds, backwash and add DE again.

    Also put a "skimmer sock" in your skimmer. Between the two your water should go clear in a few days.

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