Pool walls out of square

[Manslick]

Another thing I was just thinking after reading some other posts, should there be a floor drain in the 7' deep end, that should of been put in when the floor was poured

It's not a drain per se but a feed line to the pump. I don't suppose one is absolutely necessary, though I've never seen a pool without one. Can’t see it in the pictures.

Did they lay the plumbing?

Let them worry about damage to correct the geometry. All you want is what you paid for – a square pool. Any damage they do in the fix is their problem.

[Figstimpy]

There was no plumbing laid, and the floor is solid no holes or drains

[Manslick]

Then check the plans. If there’s a “drain” they messed up.

The plans might have a piping diagram too, a single line drawing showing the piping valves, pump, filter and any other required equipment.

If you need help reading the diagram post a picture.

[Figstimpy]

No plans other than the pool drawing, but here is the list of stuff from their quote

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO QUOTE THE LORENTZ FAMILY
YOUR INSTALLED DELUXE 14X28 IN GROUND POOL INCLUDES:
EXCAVATION OF POOL
42” 14 GUAGE STEEL WALLS & SUPPORT STRUCTURE
GROUT CUSTOM FLOOR
CONCRETE SURROUND FOUNTATION FOOTING
40 TONNE ¾” WASHED STONE BACKFILL TO SUPPORT PLUMBING
HAYWARD RECIRCULATION KIT- SKIMMER & 2 JETS
PLUMBING DONE IN CSA PIPE, FITTINGS, UNIONS AND VALVES
COPING-ALUMINUM IN WHITE
LINER- FULL PRINT IN 30 ML
LINER PADDING AND LINER COPING LOCK
HAYWARD PUMP 1 HP SUPER PUMP & SYSTEM 3 CARTRIDGE FILTRATION
STAIR- 8 FT. WALK IN ROMAN STAIR IN WHITE- CENTER SHALLOW END
HEAT SAVR SYSTEM-LIQUID SOLAR BLANKET WITH AUTOMATIC METERING PUMP
LIGHTS BY AQUALAMP – 2- RAINBOW COLOURED WALL LIGHTS 12 VOLT
IONIZER BY CHLORINE SAVER FOR THE WEEKLY WATER TREATMENT
HAYWARD CHLORINATOR TO SUPPORT IONIZER
TYPHOON SLIDE WITH WATER CONNECTION
BRASS DECK ANCHOR FOR FUTURE BASKETBALL GAME
MANUAL MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT-EVERYTHING TO CLEAN AND TEST THE WATER
START UP WATER TREATMENT KIT & WATER BALANCING
DELUXE POOL PRICE QUOTE AS LISTED ABOVE
14X28 RECTANGLE W/ 2 FT. RADIUS CORNERS $31,796.+ 4133.(HST)=$35929.00
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THE REVOLUTION POOL LIFT WITH WHEELCHAIR INCLUDED
ADDITIONAL BATTERY 24V $11,486. + 1493. (HST)=$12979.00
OR
THE LIBERTY LIFT WITH WHEELCHAIR INCLUDED
ADDITIONAL BATTERY 24V $11719. + 1523. (HST)=$13242.00
CONSTRUCTION TERMS: ALL SUBJECT TO SITE INSPECTION
-EXTRA STONE AT COST OF STONE, PLACEMENT N/C UPTO 60 TONNE
-ELECTRICAL BONDING, WIRING, BUILDING PERMITS, LOCATES AND WATER SUPPLIED BY OWNER.
PAYMENT TERMS:
PRE SEASON BOOKING (NOV.-APR 2011) $1000. REFUNDABLE
35% UPON AGREEMENT OF CONTRACT LESS PRE SEASON DEPOSIT
25% UPON COMPLETION OF WALLS
25% UPON COMPLETION OF LINER
10% UPON COMPLETION OF POOL
5% 30 DAYS AFTER COMPLETION OF POOL
TO BE DISCUSSED:
FLOOR PLAN OF POOL, LINER PATTERN
TIMING FOR POOL AND BUILDING CONSTRUCTION
IN FLOOR HEATING RE SLIDE AND LIFT MOUNTING HARDWARE IN DECK
DECK INSTALLATION AROUND POOL FIXTURES
LOCATION OF EQUIPMENT ROOM
HEATING POOL WATER, ROOM AND CONTROLLING HUMIDITY OF ROOM
PLUMBING REQUIRED TO CONNECT POOL TO HEAT SOURCE
RUBAROC FLOOR COVERING START AT $12. PER SQ. FT.
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THIS IS A STARTING POINT FOR PLANNING YOUR INDOOR PROJECT. IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL
REQUEST OR WANT TO MODIFY THE DELUXE KIT, JUST CALL FOR PRICING.

the size was adjusted to a full L and to 48" walls

heres the diagram





thanks

[Manslick]

Hmm the quote doesn’t specifically list a drain.
It does say HAYWARD RECIRCULATION KIT- SKIMMER & 2 JETS
That would imply the filter is fed from a skimmer only and the water returned to the pool via the 2 jets. That saves some plumbing I guess.

The interesting thing I see is the Installation Data that lists the point to point dimensions. I suppose that’s how the problem was discovered.

You can argue it’s their error they are responsible to meet the specs. I guess you have to fight it out with them.

Good luck Mr. Lorentz.

[Figstimpy]

the small numbers on those plans are ones i changed, this original one had a 12' shallow and we didnt want that. I only changed the info on the drawings to represent the dimensions.

The shallow end is 14X19X 4', the deep is 14'X14', with a 5'X8' section at 7'. The slopes coming in from the sides and end slope 3', and the slope from the shallow is 6'

[Manslick]

the small numbers on those plans are ones i changed, this original one had a 12' shallow and we didnt want that. I only changed the info on the drawings to represent the dimensions.

The shallow end is 14X19X 4', the deep is 14'X14', with a 5'X8' section at 7'. The slopes coming in from the sides and end slope 3', and the slope from the shallow is 6'

I was referring to the table on sheet 1 titled Installation Data that shows the plan of the pool.

This shows the dimensions from the work points. If the walls are 7” out of square then some of those dimensions were not held.

For example, the table says from point B to point C is 10’-0” and from point B to point K is 31’-9”. If those measured dimensions are not held then you’d have an out of square situation. In other words line B-C is not parallel to line N-K.

I assumed the out of square problem is with the plan, since you mentioned the enclosure would not be square with the house. Are there also problems with the depth as well?

[Figstimpy]

I hadnt noticed that the drawings had the squares on them, I just inputted the data into my construction master. I will check those out next time i am out there.

thanks again