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    Default Re: Calling All Chem Geeks (incl. THE Chem Geek) re: storing pool chems

    What's the best way to dispose of extra "old" muriatic acid? I have a partial bottle that I want to get rid of... have not used or needed it in years. I know I should not just pour it down a drain or onto the ground. Is there a safe way to neutralize it?
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    Default Re: Calling All Chem Geeks (incl. THE Chem Geek) re: storing pool chems

    While I'm certainly noot an expert on hazardous chems, I think that filling a ~30 gallon garbage bin with water, adding the acid and then enough soda ash (pH up or Super Washing soda to neutralize it) would be sufficient to allow you to just dump the bin on the driveway or lawn.
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    Default Re: Calling All Chem Geeks (incl. THE Chem Geek) re: storing pool chems

    1 gallon of full-strength Muriatic Acid (31.45% Hydrochloric Acid) is neutralized by 8.4 pounds of pH Up / Soda Ash / Arm & Hammer Super Washing Soda or by 16.6 pounds of 20 Mule Team Borax.

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    Excellent! Now I know what to do and how much neutralizer to use.
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    It will actually take less than the amounts I indicated, especially for the soda ash, because it will result in carbon dioxide outgassing that will also raise the pH. Figure about 4-1/2 pounds instead of the 8.4 pounds (per gallon of acid). You should mix the soda ash in a bucket of water and then slowly add the acid to it. Wear goggles as there will be bubbling of carbon dioxide when you add the acid and you don't want anything splashing into your eyes.

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    Be careful not to breathe the fumes from the muriatic, as well as any that may be created while doing the mixing. MA fumes are truly AWFUL.

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