Help me identify this light

[kelemvor]

Can anyone help me identify what bulb would go in this light socket? The guys down at the local pool store can't seem to ID it, and I've bought and returned several incorrect guesses.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/1486580...33168/sizes/o/
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[kelemvor]

I found some papers on the control box/breaker panel. Looks like the circuit isdf 12/13/14v 300w max. How can I identify if it's setup for metal haylide or xenon or something else?

I flipped the breaker on and tried taking readings with a dmm at the socket but get nothing; so I might just have an electrician or something come out.

Any suggestions would be super great!

[aylad]

Hi Kelemvor,
Just wanted you to know that you're not being ignored--your post has lots of views, but I guess so far nobody has seen a light that looks like that one. Did you have the electrician take a look at it?

Welcome to the forum--sorry nobody's able to help with this particular problem so far!!

Janet

[Searcher]

I found some papers on the control box/breaker panel. Looks like the circuit isdf 12/13/14v 300w max. How can I identify if it's setup for metal haylide or xenon or something else?

I flipped the breaker on and tried taking readings with a dmm at the socket but get nothing; so I might just have an electrician or something come out.

Any suggestions would be super great!

Looks to me like it may be a GE 23427 (300PAR56/WFL) 12 volt pool bulb.

I found many places that sell them but upon viewing the corrosion I see in your pics, it looks like your can is leaking which may have blown the bulb.

[waste]

Welcome to the forum!

Those pics are so big, I kind of get lost scrolling around to view them.

Looks like a 12v 300w T-3 halogen bulb would be what you want. You've got a transformer to take it down to 12 volts (10: 1 step down transformer). If you didn't have the transformer, Ace hardware (the couple near me) carry the 120v bulbs for ~ 1/2 of what a pool store sells them

[Searcher]

Welcome to the forum!

Those pics are so big, I kind of get lost scrolling around to view them.

Looks like a 12v 300w T-3 halogen bulb would be what you want. You've got a transformer to take it down to 12 volts (10: 1 step down transformer). If you didn't have the transformer, Ace hardware (the couple near me) carry the 120v bulbs for ~ 1/2 of what a pool store sells them

Yeah, I missed the dual connection in the pot so it is NOT what I thought it was. Leakage still needs to be taken care of though.

[kelemvor]

The base doesn't look right to me on the 23427. The pool store suggested two GE gy6.35 http://www.gelighting.com/apo/produc...halogen/06.htm but the pins are too small (both in the diameter of the actual pins and the distance between the pins).

The light was sitting out on the pool deck for about 6 months (at least) while the house was vacant. It's possible some of the corrosion happened then; however it's interesting you mention that because I assumed water in the cubby hole the light goes into would be OK. I take it I must drain the pool down below the light level when I put the new bulb in (and keep the seal on the cover water tight)?


For smaller versions of those photos you can click at the top of the page where it says "medium" or "small" etc.

[Searcher]

Actually you want water around but not in the pot. You will have a rubber gasket at the front of the pot. The the lens goes between said gasket. There will be a clamp that squeezes it all together so that the entire assembly is water tight.

You may want to float the pot to be sure it is water tight now. Mine developed a leak through the stainless steel which was easily fixed by sanding both sides, opening the hole and applying PC7 epoxy through the clean hole I made and making sure the epoxy stuck well to the pot, inside and outside.

If you are missing parts and considering the PITA you are having with bulb ID and with the corrosion, maybe a new low voltage light may be in order.

If you do decide to go that route, let us know and we will run you though the procedure of fishing the new cord through your conduit.

Another thought, if possible, is to replace the existing sockets with something "standard" and go with easily found bulbs.

If you do use the old pot, shine her up inside and when you set the lens, make sure the lens is aligned with the bottom screw that holds the pot in place.

[kelemvor]

A couple more incorrect guesses from the district manager of the local pool store (chain). He said there's some guy in his Texas warehouse that's pretty amazing at identifying stuff like this on sight, so he sent that guy my photos.

They said a replacement socket would be around $400 most likely (he didn't really look anything else, just guessed) and also somewhat of a bear to fish through under the concrete. Being that it's only 3 years old I'd hate to replace it anyway. That'll be a last resort if this miracle worker in Texas can't figure it out.

[Searcher]

A couple more incorrect guesses from the district manager of the local pool store (chain). He said there's some guy in his Texas warehouse that's pretty amazing at identifying stuff like this on sight, so he sent that guy my photos.

They said a replacement socket would be around $400 most likely (he didn't really look anything else, just guessed) and also somewhat of a bear to fish through under the concrete. Being that it's only 3 years old I'd hate to replace it anyway. That'll be a last resort if this miracle worker in Texas can't figure it out.

Oh my, the wire was not run through a conduit for easy fishing of a new wire? As long as the PVC conduit is primed and glued water tight, there is no pool water leakage as your stub up must be well above your water level.