Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
pH: With almost all chemicals we always say NEVER ADD THE FULL AMOUNT! Add 1/2 of the "recommended" amount, wait a couple of hours and test again. Gradual adjustment is the key. i don't use the pool calculator for just that reason--too easy to overshoot your goal. It works best for bleach, IMHO.
Now you need to add acid to your pool to bring pH down. I don't know how big your pool is so I would start with a cup of Muriatic acid. You can use Dry Acid instead. Either way, add it to a five gallon bucket of water FIRST before adding it to your pool. Do no breath the acid fumes...you will see vapor rise from the jug. Keep it away from your face and skin and wear safety goggles and gloves. Always add the acid to water, not the other way around!
Then pour the bucket into the pool's return stream and keep your pump on. Test pH in an hour and if it is still high repeat. 7.6 is ideal but any result from 7.3 to 7.7 I would leave alone.
CH: the colors look fine to me. 40 drops means a CH of 400ppm and you do not want to exceed that in any pool or you may face clouding or scaling. See if your pool store tester confirms that number.
However, I would go on line and order replacement reagents (testing chems) just to be sure. Always store them in a cool, dry place, indoors.
So, what is the ONE additive I don't mind overshooting on? Chlorine, of course!
Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
Thanks again. I'll give the acid a try. From testing this am it took 4 drops to get the color down to the recommended ph. According to the ph chart that means I need a little over a quart so I'll just do a little at a time and retest. As far as the pool size goes the pool builder told me 12,000 gallons but the next time I refill it I'm going to get the water company to do before and after readings to confirm. Are any of the digital water testing devices available to consumers worth buying?
Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
I never bother with the acid demand test. My pH is too high? I add a cup of acid and recheck in an hour.
Pool volume is simple solid geometry. Once you have the cubic footage volume of the water, not the pool, you multiply by 7.48 to get gallons.
Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
Now I am just totally confused. I did as you suggested, added small amounts of acid, retested 1 hour later. My test shows great numbers on everything so I took a sample to the pool store to see how right or wrong I was.
My Numbers:
FC:12.5
pH: 7.4
TA: 80
CH:400
CYA:70
The numbers and reccomendations from the pool store are below. She suggested I turn my chlorinator back on and set it to the Max (5) because, according to her test my FC is 0
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Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
Here's another quick test I did with a 6 way test strip. I know these are not as accurate as the Taylor but still this doesn't indicate anywhere near the 0 that the pool store reported.
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Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
If both your K2006 test kit and the guess strips match, ignore the pool store.
I bet it was some kid using strips. Sorry I suggested it. I have never heard of anyone getting a 0 FC reading and a positive CC reading. if TC is 1.8 and FC is 0, then C must be 1.8. I don't believe their numbers.
BTW, the "Alkalinity Plus" is very, very, very, expensive baking soda. Sodium bicarb, but they use an alternate name, Sodium Hydrogen Carbonate, which is the same thing, just an elaborate attempt to fool you.
Before you waste money on calcium and risk going 'way over 400, invest in new reagents first.
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Yea I agree, I think either their machine just doesn't read as high as my FC is or it was broken. My CC according to K2006 is ~.25 or less. It's almost undetectable. Oh and it was an adult and they do use some sort of machine for the testing.
I've been reading these forums enough to know not to buy any of the chemicals from the pool store. They do sell reagents though and I may grab some from them next week.
Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
Yeah, Some of them stock Taylor reagents. Leslies only stocks Taylor which is good. But they rarely have everything you need, which isn't so good. On Line is more reliable.
Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
I went to a Leslie's this am and had them do a water test. The results are nearly identical to mine and apple to oranges from the little local pool store nearby. Now I see the importance of what you guys teach here! Had I listened to that pool store I'd wasted a bunch of money and had my pool all out of whack.
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Re: Question about CH Test Coloration
Numbers look really, really good.
I wouldn't mess with them--and the T/A is TECHNICALLY high, but if you don't see clouding or scaling and your pH doesn't trend up, it's too close to mess with.
TDS and Pho numbers are BS. If you had a salt water chlorine generator, the salt alone puts TDS at 3000--where it is SUPPOSED to be!
We recommend you generally do not worry about phosphates unless you have a bad algae bloom you cannot resolve and your phosphate level is very, very high (I think 3000 again is the number). But if you're NOT having algae problems you cannot control, it's irrelevant.
The Leslie Brand test kits are made by Taylor and other than costing a bit more, are the same. So their FAS-DPD Chlorine Service Test Kit is really a re-badged K-2006. Their own OTO/pH test kit is, again, the Taylor-Made OTO kit, my preferred one.