Echo Canyon OR Pacifica AG Pool

Hello! We are in Florida and well... it's already HOT! We are really looking hard at AG pools and after visiting a few of the local pool stores we have narrowed it down to 2 different pools and I'd like your expert advice.

The first pool is definitely a NICE pool! It's the Artesian Echo Canyon. We want a 24 foot round. It's without a doubt a good pool but quite a bit more money over the other pool we liked.

The second choice is a Recreational Factory Warehouse pool, the Pacifica, also 24 foot round. While I'm not highly impressed with Rec Warehouse, the pool seems to be decent quality. It has Resin top rails and a stainless stell wall panel, both things we feel are important.

BOTH pools come with a nice thick 25 mil liner.

The Pacifica pool requires sand for installation.
The Echo uses pool base and cove for installation.

The Pacifica comes with Baquacil.
The Echo uses The Pro-A Mineral system.

The Echo Canyon is $3900 + tax + $600 installation= $4773
The Pacifica is $2700 + tax + $600 installation = $3489

IS the Echo Canyon worth $1200 MORE??????????????

Thanks!:)

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The Pacifica comes with Baquacil.
The Echo uses The Pro-A Mineral system.

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Stay clear of both of these.

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Okay??? I don't like Baquacil But what's the problem with the Pro-A???

What do you use just chlorine????

Explain, please!:)

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Originally Posted by Tattoomom

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Okay??? I don't like Baquacil But what's the problem with the Pro-A???

What do you use just chlorine????

Explain, please!:)

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Yep, just chlorine! As do most members here, and we have stunningly clear water. :D The fact is, most of us use either bleach or a salt-water chlorinator as our chlorine source.
The mineral systems put silver and copper in the water to prevent biological growth. The ability of them to do this is spotty or nonexistent when it comes to viruses. Copper is really good at turning hair green though.

Wayell, I'm all for the chlorine, too!

But the reason I was impressed with the Nature2 Pro-A Minerals & Auto Chlorinator was because the salesman said it uses chlorine but cuts the distribution down to 5%, reducing stinging eyes, etc...

Am I under the wrong impression with this thing?

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Originally Posted by Tattoomom

Am I under the wrong impression with this thing?

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Yes. Look here: http://www.poolforum.com/pf2/showthr...ight=%22nature

You will soon learn that most people who work in pool stores have never taken care of a pool.

Wow- Ok.

So, if we go with the AG 24 round, how do I learn to take care of it since the pool people haven't a clue what to tell me except for the Pro-A or bauqacil route.

Can someone quickly explain the chlorine VS salt?

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Originally Posted by Tattoomom

Wow- Ok.

So, if we go with the AG 24 round, how do I learn to take care of it since the pool people haven't a clue what to tell me except for the Pro-A or bauqacil route.

Can someone quickly explain the chlorine VS salt?

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You can learn here and at www.poolsolutions.com

The salt generation uses an electrical device that turns saltwater into chlorinated water. You add salt to the pool, which improves the feel of the water. They are fairly expensive. ($500 up)

My new pool (Echo Canyon) isn't up yet...but I was extremely impressed with the quality of the pool and the thickness of the steel walls. I'm not sure if you were able to look at a display demo that was up at the store, but..the quality as compared to the other pools my store offered was off the chart! The warranty was non-prorated 60 year which seemed impressive. The top rails were 9" with a resin track. Structurally, it just appeared strong. You may want to email "huskerfan" a member of this board who purchased an Echo Canyon to see how they like it so far. I'm hoping we'll be happy once it's installed.:)

we have an Artesian pool, ours is a "fusion" and is a 30 ft round. we use proteam supreme and a nature 2 chlor/ionozer cartridge. we love it !!!!!! we bought ours at the chatt tn store and the sales ppl were very knowledgable and helpful. we set our chlorinator on .5 and with the proteam supreme the kids have never complained of irritation.
our water looks like liquid glass and a million rainbows are dancing in the water. we bought a light with it, and the hard plumb kit with shut offs, a sand filter and the deluxe steps.
we have had absolutely no problems with it, and we were complete novices when we got it. we do not use much on chemicals and its so easy to upkeep. artesian is definitely worth it. we shopped from birmingham al to nashville tn to chatt and near atlanta ga before deciding on the artesian at the pool place in chatt tn. i cant say enough about how wonderful it has been having our pool.
it is so worth the money.
we are very busy and i wanted something that was low maintence and easy to care for. and this has been it.
well worth it,
:) a happy artesian customer...
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I have the Pacifica 18' round from Rec Warehouse, and am very pleased with it. It's our first pool, and I really like having the 25 gauge liner with 2 small kids, at least it gives me a little extra piece of mind. We also got the 26 inch baquapure high rate sand filter with 2.5 hp pump hi/lo speed. My only gripe with Rec Warehouse was that they really tried to push the baquacil on us, and gave us the baquacil startup kit, and as well as our filter/pump combo were all nicely labeled for baqua products. Lucky, I had about a week before the installation to find this forum and talk to others who had used/were using baquacil, and decided never to start my pool on the stuff, and go chlorine from the start. I've since converted to BBB, and couldn't be happier with our pool.

I have the Artesian Echo Canyon 24 ft. I did a lot of reading on the N2 system and have removed it from my pool. I would do just chlorine and drop the N2. Have them give you some other goodies. I did the non return pool light. I would get the pro install. Have them throw you in a good test kit.
As for upkeep. I spend about 20 minutes each day to check chems and adjust chlorine with bleach. I grab the net and pull leaves. I adjust ph on the week end. Saturday morning I have my oldest drop in the vacume and babysit it for about 3 hours and go swim.
Echo Canyon is the best bang for the buck in the Artesian line.
Have fun, enjoy your pool, let us know what you do.:)
Steve

We purchased a 33' Round Artesian Echo Canyon last year. It was installed this year in March. We chose the pool for the 54" wall and non-prorated lifetime warranty. It was also a tried and true tested steel/resin hybrid pool with resin in all the right places. See signature for construction photos.

Stay away from the package filtration systems. I bought the pool kit and liner from the poolplaceonline.com but handpicked all of my other pump/filter equipment elsewhere.

We also purchased the optional fence and deck kit from Artesian that went together very nicely.

We are very happy with the purchase and I can highly recommend this brand.

gwrace
Pools looks very nice. How long now has it been up and running? I will be in phase 1 in about a week. I am nervous/ yet excited. do you use chlorine? And mainly I would like to ask, so far have you had crystal clear water. I am nervous to the fact that it has been so costly, and am concerned about my being so meticulous in keeping everything just right. Tell me how it's been as a new pool owner thus far?