you should convince him to use salt, ultimately that is the way to go. I sure hope most would agree on that.
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you should convince him to use salt, ultimately that is the way to go. I sure hope most would agree on that.
Also I think everything was good about the one post except he didn't really list all of the cons for liquid chlorine. Some cons of using liquid/bleach are that it has a high ph which means you tend to add acid, it has a high tds and increases your tds value fast which can cause you to have to partially drain the pool. Also unless you have a liquid feed system you don't have a constant supply of chlorine in the water. So in the instance of a large party you could easily show a chlorine reading of 0 halfway through the party with no safe way to get chlorine in the water, while using a feed system would allow you to constantly have a residual in the water. I do agree with the rest but I feel like she asked for un-biased advice which would need to include more cons for liquid instead of having to throw away the bottles. Plus pool stores will re-fill your bottles for you anyways. Everything in life has both pros and cons, so be sure to include both.
I stated it has an effect on PH. As for adding acid, I don't expect it to be much, backed up by this info from Ben in his TEKTATs-Quote:
Originally Posted by gregugadawg
"Probably the greatest chemical destruction I see at the large commercial pools results from the fumes of muriatic acid used to control pH. I've literally seen over $100,000 of damage at just one pool. Much of this comes from attempting to follow the dictates of the pool industry TEKTAT: "if you use bleach, you must use lots of acid."
BS! (Barnyard Slush)
Just to keep it short, I'll invite anyone who wants to, come watch me manage a 300,000 gallon pool this summer with less than 5 gallons of acid . . . while using hundreds of gallons of bleach!"
Huh? I've had the partial drain happen over and over with stabilized chlorine sources, but never with bleach. Heck, it's a little bit of chlorine gas, a little bit of sodium hydroxide and mostly water.Quote:
it has a high tds and increases your tds value fast which can cause you to have to partially drain the pool.
If maintains a proper residual this doesn't seem to be the case. We had a large crowd on Memorial day. I had a 4 ppm FC pre-party. After many hours by many people in the pool, it was still 2 ppm.Quote:
Also unless you have a liquid feed system you don't have a constant supply of chlorine in the water. So in the instance of a large party you could easily show a chlorine reading of 0 halfway through the party with no safe way to get chlorine in the water, while using a feed system would allow you to constantly have a residual in the water.
In my opinion these cons are kind of weak, and you could nit pick any chlorine source like this. I just want to hit the major highlights.
Sure they will, for about double the cost of new ones from the grocery store :)Quote:
I do agree with the rest but I feel like she asked for un-biased advice which would need to include more cons for liquid instead of having to throw away the bottles. Plus pool stores will re-fill your bottles for you anyways. Everything in life has both pros and cons, so be sure to include both.
Seems to me that if you have written statements from pool company owners and operators (many members here and Pooldoc himself) that they use bleach, baking soda, and borax in their own pool, there is little else that needs to be said...
Hal
Hal, while I agree with you,Quote:
Originally Posted by halds
Insert Devil's Advocate-
"Your listening to someone on the internet?!
Anybody can put ANYTHING on there!!
They don't care if we ruin our pool. They probably want us to!"
:(
If I could afford SWG, sure. If I get 5 years cell life, It would probably break even with what I pay for grocery store bleach right now, but it would be more convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by gregugadawg
But then I'd have to use acid do to PH issues still, right?
This link-
http://www.poolcenter.com/chlor.htm
has a good discussion of the various types of chlorine used in pools. You have to scroll down a bit to find it.