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MartyW
07-28-2009, 07:12 PM
I ordered stain remover on line assuming it was ascorbic acid, but it is oxyalic acid instead. (I also ordered ascorbic acid from the supplier in mbar's sticky). Can I use this and do I follow the same procedure as ascorbic acid?
Thanks for your help
Marty
waterbear
07-30-2009, 10:08 PM
yes
However, ascorbic acid is toxic so be careful. FYI, you can also use citric acid.
MartyW
07-31-2009, 04:22 PM
Thanks for the reply. I assume you mean oxalic acid, not ascorbic acid ?
Marty
CarlD
07-31-2009, 04:33 PM
Yeah, ascorbic acid is Vitamin-C
waterbear
07-31-2009, 10:13 PM
Thanks for the reply. I assume you mean oxalic acid, not ascorbic acid ?
Marty
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All three will remove some, but not all metal stains (some copper stains are just about impossible to remove).
Ascorbic acid is the safests but the most expensive and it's price has gone up a lot lately. Oxalic acid is the least expenisce and is found in some commercial products such as United Chemical's Pool Stain Treat but is it very toxic and somewhat corrosive. Citric acid is just slightly more expensive than oxalic acid and is much more benign but still more irritating than ascorbic acid but not considered a poison.
MartyW
08-04-2009, 04:49 PM
Should I be backwashing my DE filter during this process? Is there a way to eliminate the metals other than a complete water change?
Thanks, Marty
waterbear
08-04-2009, 07:46 PM
Should I be backwashing my DE filter during this process?
Only if your filter pressure rises too high.
Is there a way to eliminate the metals other than a complete water change?
Basically, no, assuming there are no metals in the fill water. If you REALLY know what you are doing you can sometimes get them to 'stain out' on the filter media and then change out the media (DE in your case) but it's tricky at best for someone who really understands the chemistry involved and NOT something to try if you don't.
Thanks, Marty
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