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rtpatter
04-18-2006, 02:28 PM
To better illustrate my point and to visually answer my earlier post of what happens when you leave a loop loc cover on in 80+ degree weather. The first two are right after I took off the cover. The last two are after five days of bleach and filtering 24 hrs a day. The water is still a little cloudy as you can barely see the drain and the Polaris. I may try a little super blue clarifier to see if I can get it back to crystal clear.




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Prov35
04-21-2006, 08:13 PM
From pond to pool in 5 days! Thanks for the pics. Very interesting. Hope mine looks better than that when I open it next month.

rtpatter
04-22-2006, 05:40 PM
Actually it took seven days to get it crystal clear the pics above were after about 3 days and the water was still abit cloudy. Now it is crystal clear.

vanhout
04-23-2006, 03:59 PM
How high did you run your Cl during the 5 days?

Thanks. :)

rtpatter
04-24-2006, 10:32 AM
I tried to Keep the FC between 10 and 15 just using bleach. If you keep it at that level it shouldn't take long to clear. After few days as it begans to clear I added a little liquid clarifier to help the new sand in the filter catch all the tiny particles that didn't get caught the first time thru the filter. The pics above are actually quite cloudy compared to what it looks like now. Now it is crystal clear.

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Watermom
04-24-2006, 06:10 PM
And who says bleach doesn't work? The proof is in those pics! Great job and nice pool. Enjoy!

Watermom

matt4x4
04-27-2006, 03:53 PM
UUGH!
Procrastination really doesn't pay - EVER!!!
Pool was crystal clear a month ago....well, dirt and some leaves on the bottom, but other than that it was clear...
A week before easter, I said to myself - gotta go buy bleach and get it in there, temps are rising....
Easter we were away...
A week after easter, I said it again....
I finally bought a bunch of bleach, set it in the garage and forgot for 3 days
When I went to put it in, it was green just like above....
Oh well! still too cold to swim anyways, should be clear by next week!!!

JohnT
04-27-2006, 04:12 PM
Don't you know you can't use bleach in a swimming pool?:D :rolleyes:

Now for fun take those pictures to the poolstore and show them the before and ask what to buy. Then show the after and tell them how you cleared it up.

Service Guy
04-27-2006, 04:31 PM
Don't you know you can't use bleach in a swimming pool?:D :rolleyes:

Now for fun take those pictures to the poolstore and show them the before and ask what to buy. Then show the after and tell them how you cleared it up.


There are byproducts and fillers in bleach that really shouldn't be in pool water and can wreak havoc on pH & alkalinity. Regardless, when attempting to clear a mesh covered pool in the spring, the MOST important thing is filtration. Without adequate filtration, you can dump all the bleach (or other sanitizer) you want in the pool and it's not going to make a big difference. One way to keep the pool from getting to such a nasty state, is to put a floating chlorinator in it when the pool is winterized. Periodically check & refill throughout the winter and even add additional algaecide if needed. If you religiously do this, without procrastination, then chances are your water will be clear when you remove the cover and save you days or weeks of clean-up time. The other option is to buy a SOLID VINYL COVER! Your water will look the same in the spring as it did when you winterized it.

MaryLee
04-27-2006, 04:50 PM
"There are byproducts and fillers in bleach that really shouldn't be in pool water and can wreak havoc on pH & alkalinity."

huh??

PoolDoc
04-27-2006, 04:53 PM
There are byproducts and fillers in bleach that really shouldn't be in pool water and can wreak havoc on pH & alkalinity.

Unfortunately, that's a totally bogus claim. Apparently, you've never actually *used* bleach!

There's no 'filler' in bleach, except water . . . and as has been discussed many times, the stronger the bleach is (and the less water) the faster it breaks down. Like any source of pool chlorine, bleach is not perfect. Probably it's worst characteristic is that it's so bulky.

But, it's cheaper than any other form of chlorine available to homeowners; it's has fewer side effects. It has no calcium, unlike cal hypo; no stabilizer, unlike everything sold by most pool stores; and no copper, unlike some new and truly awful blends. It's just chlorine, with a lot of water, and a little salt.

I realize that you are probably getting your info from one of the chemical manufacturer's handbooks, or from something like the CPO manual. But, as a CPO instructor, but also as someone who ran 20+ 100,000+ gallon pools with bleach . . . I can assure you that all the stuff about bleach's effect on pH and alkalinity is bogus. I operated one pool for years with bleach, and even though I had a partial 55 gallon drum of acid on site, I *never* used it up, in 6+ years!!

I'm sure that you have some helpful service tips to share, but please, for your sake and ours, hang on to your thoughts about chemistry till you've read and understood what this site is all about.

Sincerely,

Ben Powell