new IGP, can they Marcite before Screen?

[mneal]

I am building an new IGP and the screen is one of the few things sub-contracted out by the pool GC. Pool construction has been top notch but now we have gotten to the screen enclosure part and things have halted. The pool deck has been done for weeks and the screen guy keeps pushing enclosure back. Pool company wants to Marcite and fill pool last but not sure why...can they finish the pool and then the guy can put screen up afterwards? Maybe they put ladders or something in empty pool...surely they can add screen enclosures to existing pools and they Marcite open pools so why the order of operation? Any thoughts from the pros?

[Simmons99]

If you are in Florida, the building codes require a barrier around the pool to be present BEFORE adding water. So, if you don't have a fence that meets all the barrier requirements, they would be liable if a kid fell in a drowned.

BTW - they didn't have you pay progress payments on the screen enclosure too - did they? I got my PB to agree to have me pay for the screen only once it was complete - and it is like $13K - so they have some incentive to complete.

[mneal]

I am in FLA so the local coses would apply. I have a 6ft wooden privacy fence around the entire backyard (with 2 sections removed for heavy equipment as pool is being built) I think that would meet my local codes but worth a look. I have paid in 5 "drawls" and I have to look but judging from what remains to be paid I have paid most of the screen :-(

[Simmons99]

You can look here for specifics:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_Mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0515/Sec29.htm&StatuteYear=2001

and here:

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0515/SEC27.HTM&Title=->2001->Ch0515->Section%2027#0515.27

If you can meet all the issues, go to the pool builder and show them and they might fill it for you.

[mshumack]

I am in FLA so the local coses would apply. I have a 6ft wooden privacy fence around the entire backyard (with 2 sections removed for heavy equipment as pool is being built) I think that would meet my local codes but worth a look. I have paid in 5 "drawls" and I have to look but judging from what remains to be paid I have paid most of the screen :-(

I barrier only needs to be the plastic (orange) saftey fence. It should be installed by contratcor once the pool is dug and remain there until the pool is filled with water. The final fencing or screen enclosure is the last step. The fence around your property does not count. The safety fence is there to keep your kids or their friends from falling into the pool after they have been invited into your home/yard. The wood fence you have is to keep univited people out.

[RENOPOOL]

Hi,
I'm also in the Orlando area. I had the same thing happen to me but I told my Pool Builder to hold off until the screen was done and I was happy I did. My wait was only a week longer but the screws that were dropped in my pool after they were done was quite a mess. Just the thought of all the screws in you new pool and perhaps staining your new finish is enough to make me wait. I will tell you my Pool Builder was Artesian Pools (great pool) but they dropped the ball with the screen sub-contractor they use (poor job on the screen). Hope this helps!

[Bleach=Chlorine?]

I barrier only needs to be the plastic (orange) saftey fence. It should be installed by contratcor once the pool is dug and remain there until the pool is filled with water. The final fencing or screen enclosure is the last step. The fence around your property does not count. The safety fence is there to keep your kids or their friends from falling into the pool after they have been invited into your home/yard. The wood fence you have is to keep univited people out.


I am in PA and have a fence that runs from the back of my house out around most of the yard and then back to the other back side of the house... so the pool is enclosed in 3/4 of my backyard. That fence was fine for insurance purposes... isn't it my problem to watch kids/people invited into my house??

[Simmons99]

I think it really depends on the local codes and laws. Here in FL, the leading cause of death for children under 5 is drowning - most in the pool at their own house. So the state passed a law requiring that a barrier be placed around the pool which met certain requirements.

Now, I am not stating an opinion as to whether I agree or not with it - but that's just the way it is down here.

[mneal]

Spoke to the pool GC and I guess they are going to Marcite and fill next week. I will put the 6 ft privacy fence back and screen guys will have to work took gate (took fence apart manly for digging equipment)